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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1182016)
How was that an insult? I just said I have faith in those who want to leave. The job market sucks, but only in the US. There's tons of growth and pilot jobs at Asian and Middle Eastern carriers. Good luck! Keep applying, applying, and applying. Eventually, you'll get a call.
I'm not giving up. I just wish luck will turn my way soon. |
i bet buffalo news would like to hear about this.
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This is exactly why airlines need to die. Management should be OUT ON THE STREET. Walk away...no, RUN AWAY.
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Does anyone know where to find or what the Dispute Resolution Letter referenced in the latest hotline email is all about? I looked through the ALPA website and couldn't find it. Are we even allowed to see it?
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Originally Posted by whtever
(Post 1181629)
Sean Menke is now up there with Lorenzo and the rest of the most hated and ineffective airline CEOs of all time. This situation is the epitome of corporate greed, the inability to effectively lead, extremely poor workforce relations, and the complete lack of foresight and business understanding. Before you come to his defense, look at at his overly underwhelming resume, one covered with his own tears. He references Frontier in a majority of his bullish** "Messages from Sean." While the F9 guys may defend, they are in no better position today than when he took the helm. The only difference is they drank the coolaide and willingly gave up pay, retirement, benefits etc. while supporting the man that stole from each and every employee. Now he brings his BS show to Pinnacle and fails miserably. True he may not have been handed a perfect situation, but what business professional of his supposed stature accepts a position without due diligence. He is destructive at best and will be instrumental in the collapse of 9E; tearfully defending his raise as he aggressively attacks his undeserving employees' wages, work rules, benefits, and 401Ks- all while thousands of families are crippled is disgusting. Sean Menke is what is wrong with this industry and stands as a symbol of incapable management.
The question is how far will the airline pilot profession let it go. They WILL attempt to push the boundary as far as pilots will let it. We shall see how far we let them do it. |
Originally Posted by Will
(Post 1181976)
Everybody relax, I have been telling myself not to get to worked up over the companys first offer. By all means if you are not happy here please leave. Instead of sinking the boat do us all a favor and just jump off.
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Originally Posted by schone
(Post 1181989)
Never in all of my time at Pinnacle did I think i'd live to see 87% agreeing that its time to burn the place to the ground rather than agreeing to any of their bull**** terms.
Hallelujah!!!! Liquidate the place folks! There ain't nothing for any single one of us to gain by Pinnacle (i mean Mesaba) staying afloat. Burn it, liquidate it, and come back later when its more decent of a work place. Set an example, and the rest will follow! Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of hard workers and great people in this company/industry...but for those reasons I've listed above (and many more), there will never be true solidarity within a company, let alone the industry. It's what keeps two-bit, Micky Mouse operations like Pinnacle afloat. |
Originally Posted by AxialFlow
(Post 1182800)
108 isn't 87% of the pilot group. It's probably those on the bottom of the seniority list who are getting furloughed and won't have a job regardless. The pilots will NEVER shut this place down. Too many people with excuses, i.e. "My spouse makes the money", or "I'm a trust fund baby and don't need the paycheck", or "I can afford a paycut, I'm still living with my parents", etc, etc, etc...
Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of hard workers and great people in this company/industry...but for those reasons I've listed above (and many more), there will never be true solidarity within a company, let alone the industry. It's what keeps two-bit, Micky Mouse operations like Pinnacle afloat. |
Originally Posted by AxialFlow
(Post 1182800)
108 isn't 87% of the pilot group. It's probably those on the bottom of the seniority list who are getting furloughed and won't have a job regardless. The pilots will NEVER shut this place down. Too many people with excuses, i.e. "My spouse makes the money", or "I'm a trust fund baby and don't need the paycheck", or "I can afford a paycut, I'm still living with my parents", etc, etc, etc...
Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of hard workers and great people in this company/industry...but for those reasons I've listed above (and many more), there will never be true solidarity within a company, let alone the industry. It's what keeps two-bit, Micky Mouse operations like Pinnacle afloat. Just remember these things when you vote for the lawmakers that rig the rules against the general populace. It's time to show them ALL what unemployment is all about. |
Originally Posted by AxialFlow
(Post 1182800)
Too many people with excuses, i.e. "My spouse makes the money", or "I'm a trust fund baby and don't need the paycheck", or "I can afford a paycut, I'm still living with my parents", etc, etc, etc...
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But Gulfstream and JetU promised I'd be a super amazing heavy airliner captain by now! It's not fair! It's not fair! Why am I not paid well??? It makes no sense. I have no college degree and I'm a complete social retard!
Silly Pinnacle. Let's just wrap this up folks. It's an airline built on mediocrity, staffed mostly with whoever would buy their jobs, and sinking in a dying industry sector. Best of luck with all that! |
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Originally Posted by AxialFlow
(Post 1182800)
108 isn't 87% of the pilot group. It's probably those on the bottom of the seniority list who are getting furloughed and won't have a job regardless. The pilots will NEVER shut this place down. Too many people with excuses, i.e. "My spouse makes the money", or "I'm a trust fund baby and don't need the paycheck", or "I can afford a paycut, I'm still living with my parents", etc, etc, etc...
Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of hard workers and great people in this company/industry...but for those reasons I've listed above (and many more), there will never be true solidarity within a company, let alone the industry. It's what keeps two-bit, Micky Mouse operations like Pinnacle afloat. Well said. The same Capts sitting around the table in the crew room in DTW talking about how their gonna take matters into their own hands if the contract BS doesn't stop are the same ones literally falling over themselves to get the door shut and out on time. Pinnacle is a joke always has been always will. |
Originally Posted by PCLCREW
(Post 1184025)
Well said. The same Capts sitting around the table in the crew room in DTW talking about how their gonna take matters into their own hands if the contract BS doesn't stop are the same ones literally falling over themselves to get the door shut and out on time.
Pinnacle is a joke always has been always will. |
Am I the only person wondering about the Embry-Riddle CFI whose "Cheap-Out Journey Across America" is the topic of a NYT article cited by an airline CEO (also quoted in the article) in a post to employees about how they're going to have to suck it up?
Who IS this Josh Hunter person? |
The guy in the article complained about how long his journey was, all he had to do is pay more money and he could have gotten there in a fraction of the time. What is the point of the story here?
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Burn it down. If they're going to gut the contract I'm gonna take my ball and go home. No offense to those that want to stay but is dying a slow comair death really better? 15 year FO anyone? No thanks.
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
(Post 1184673)
Burn it down. If they're going to gut the contract I'm gonna take my ball and go home. No offense to those that want to stay but is dying a slow comair death really better? 15 year FO anyone? No thanks.
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