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New letter from S. Menke to Pinnacle employes
As you know, we arrived at the decision to file for bankruptcy aftermonths of discussions with our mainline business partners, potentialinvestors/lenders and organized labor groups, which we had hoped wouldallow us to address our financial and operational challenges and reduceour costs without resorting to a legal process.In the months leading up to our filing, I communicated the challenges wewere facing and the steps we would need to take to resolve them. Iexplained that we were burdened by a number of separate issues that werestacking on top of one another, resulting in a rapidly deterioratingsituation. Those issues fell into two categories; unprofitable partnercontracts and escalating expenses.Unprofitable partner contracts:Ours is a contract business. In simplified terms, we sign contracts withmainline partners to operate flights on their behalf, and those contractsset the fees we receive per flight. Properly negotiated, those fees shouldpay for the cost of operating the flights plus some level of profit.However, for a number of reasons including maintenance costs and pilotproductivity that weren’t correctly factored and (in the case of ourpro-rate contracts) rising fuel costs, our United/Continental Q400 andDelta/9E CRJ-900 contracts signed in 2007 weren’t providing adequate feesto cover our costs.Escalating expenses:At the same time, we were experiencing a substantial rise in expenses.There were a number of drivers that included:· Delays in integrating our three airlines, which ultimately delayed ourability to attain cost synergies· Not right-sizing our management and professional organization quicklyenough· Complications with the implementation of our integrated seniority listthat cost millions of unforeseen dollars in crew productivity and trainingexpenses· A new pilot contract that added millions of payroll dollars to ourday-to-day operating expenses but weren’t scheduled to be reimbursed formore than a year after the new contract went into place· Costs associated with the relocation of our headquartersTaken together, the unprofitable contracts and escalating expenses madeour liquidity situation very tenuous. To solve these problems and reorientPinnacle toward success and profitability, the company sought the mutualcooperation of our organized labor groups and our two primary mainlinepartners (Delta and United) – the “legs” of a three-legged stool thatcould not stand without support from all three.Despite frequent and constructive conversations with our airline partnersand union leadership beginning late last year, the elements of aconsensual restructuring plan did not ultimately fall into place. In earlyJanuary, Delta notified us that they would not participate in ourrestructuring outside of bankruptcy. Even though this was a setback, analternative plan was developed. In order to buy time to implement thisplan, we negotiated interim agreements with EDC and United Airlines toprovide liquidity relief in the deferral of principal and interestpayments on owned aircraft, and increased rates on Q400 and Saab flyingperformed on behalf of United Airlines.The alternative plan also needed permanent wage concessions from all ouremployees, work rule relief from our pilots, renegotiation of the Q400contract with United and agreement on an orderly wind down of our Saabpro-rate flying with United. We also continued discussions with currentlenders and other external parties to raise liquidity to operate ourbusiness during our restructuring phase. In order to reach a long-termfinancially feasible Q400 contract and obtain financial funding, we had tohave permanent pay concessions and work rule relief.The importance of the additional liquidity was to operate our business aswe worked through certain contractual obligations with Delta Air Lines,including the pilot pay and integration reimbursement, agreement on newpilot rates going forward and the non-pilot rate reset on our CRJ-200 andMesaba CRJ-900 contracts in 2013.After numerous discussions with our organized labor groups, it wasdetermined we couldn’t agree on long-term cost-saving measures. This wasthe response even after we walked through the bleak realities of ourbusiness challenges, and explained clearly that the bankruptcyalternative, which we are now living through, would be much more severe.This includes flying reductions, furloughs, benefits and work rule changesand more significant long-term pay concessions.Now that we are in bankruptcy, our next major milestone will be to onceagain engage in negotiations with our organized labor groups to amend ourexisting collective bargaining agreements to create a viable company.While changes to these agreements will inevitably affect the lives of ourdedicated and valued employees, we hope to lessen the impact of thesechanges on our workforce as much as possible, and to reach agreements withour unions that are reasonable and fair under the difficult circumstanceswe are now facing. We also hope to achieve our objectives without theadded expense and distraction of having to ask the court to intervene byrejecting our collective bargaining agreements under Section 1113 of theBankruptcy Code – as virtually all other airlines have done before (and asAmerican Airlines is currently seeking to do).The importance of my letter today is to prepare the organization for thecoming concessions we will be asking of our entire workforce. To reach theobjectives required under our Delta DIP agreement and long-term businessrequirements, we need to achieve significant cost savings. In order toobtain the cost savings required, we have had to look beyond the wages andwork rules we were focused on prior to our bankruptcy filing. Theconcessions that we will be seeking now include wages, work rules, andmodifications to our health and 401(k) plans. For the unionized workforce,we will be meeting with your leadership teams on Tuesday, May 8th todeliver our proposals. And for all employees, we will be communicating therequired concessions in a message on the same day.Despite the challenges we are facing today, we remain dedicated to ourcore mission: to safely, efficiently and economically connect mainlinepassengers between hubs and smaller cities through a well-maintained andprofitable route network. Yes, we ultimately plan to be a smaller andleaner network. However, while minimizing our operational expenses isintegral to achieving these objectives, we recognize the importance ofsafe and skillful execution in all aspects of our business.As we move forward we will keep you informed of important developments asour labor negotiations get underway. In the meantime, we are grateful foryour ongoing dedication, and hope you will continue to bring the samefocus and determination to your work through the duration of this process.All the best,SeanP.S. There’s an article in the New York Times that does a nice jobexplaining the challenges facing the regional airline industry and how wegot to this point. If you’re interested in better understanding thefactors shaping our business and what it’s going to take to successfullyemerge from our reorganization process, I strongly encourage you to readthis.http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/business/regional-airlines-squeezed-by-flight-cutbacks-and-higher-fares.html?_r=2&hp |
Damn it...I misspelled "employees" due to my rage for this letter.
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So let me get this straight, he's backhandedly blaming the lack of concessions for putting us in this situation, but Delta wouldn't work with us unless we went into bankruptcy?
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This letter could be sent out to any one of us. This information is generic. If we are interested in stopping or slowing this progression, we need to stop accepting positions at any airline that will hire us. And start accepting only those positions that will advance our career. Good luck with that........
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Somebody needs to fix the space-bar on this guys laptop and have his secretary do a little proof reading...Oh ya I wondered how you screw what is basically a cost plus business and now we have an explanation..
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Originally Posted by filejw
(Post 1181602)
Somebody needs to fix the space-bar on this guys laptop and have his secretary do a little proof reading...Oh ya I wondered how you screw what is basically a cost plus business and now we have an explanation..
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Sean Menke is now up there with Lorenzo and the rest of the most hated and ineffective airline CEOs of all time. This situation is the epitome of corporate greed, the inability to effectively lead, extremely poor workforce relations, and the complete lack of foresight and business understanding. Before you come to his defense, look at at his overly underwhelming resume, one covered with his own tears. He references Frontier in a majority of his bullish** "Messages from Sean." While the F9 guys may defend, they are in no better position today than when he took the helm. The only difference is they drank the coolaide and willingly gave up pay, retirement, benefits etc. while supporting the man that stole from each and every employee. Now he brings his BS show to Pinnacle and fails miserably. True he may not have been handed a perfect situation, but what business professional of his supposed stature accepts a position without due diligence. He is destructive at best and will be instrumental in the collapse of 9E; tearfully defending his raise as he aggressively attacks his undeserving employees' wages, work rules, benefits, and 401Ks- all while thousands of families are crippled is disgusting. Sean Menke is what is wrong with this industry and stands as a symbol of incapable management.
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Isn't he leaving? Or did plans changed
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Originally Posted by CrippleHawk
(Post 1181668)
Isn't he leaving? Or did plans changed
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Originally Posted by whtever
(Post 1181629)
Sean Menke is now up there with Lorenzo and the rest of the most hated and ineffective airline CEOs of all time. This situation is the epitome of corporate greed, the inability to effectively lead, extremely poor workforce relations, and the complete lack of foresight and business understanding. Before you come to his defense, look at at his overly underwhelming resume, one covered with his own tears. He references Frontier in a majority of his bullish** "Messages from Sean." While the F9 guys may defend, they are in no better position today than when he took the helm. The only difference is they drank the coolaide and willingly gave up pay, retirement, benefits etc. while supporting the man that stole from each and every employee. Now he brings his BS show to Pinnacle and fails miserably. True he may not have been handed a perfect situation, but what business professional of his supposed stature accepts a position without due diligence. He is destructive at best and will be instrumental in the collapse of 9E; tearfully defending his raise as he aggressively attacks his undeserving employees' wages, work rules, benefits, and 401Ks- all while thousands of families are crippled is disgusting. Sean Menke is what is wrong with this industry and stands as a symbol of incapable management.
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However, for a number of reasons including maintenance costs and pilotproductivity that weren’t correctly factored and (in the case of ourpro-rate contracts) rising fuel costs, our United/Continental Q400 andDelta/9E CRJ-900 contracts signed in 2007 weren’t providing adequate feesto cover our costs.Escalating expenses:At the same time, we were experiencing a substantial rise in expenses.There were a number of drivers that included:· Delays in integrating our three airlines, which ultimately delayed ourability to attain cost synergies· Not right-sizing our management and professional organization quicklyenough· Complications with the implementation of our integrated seniority listthat cost millions of unforeseen dollars in crew productivity and trainingexpenses· A new pilot contract that added millions of payroll dollars to ourday-to-day operating expenses but weren’t scheduled to be reimbursed formore than a year after the new contract went into place· Costs associated with the relocation of our headquartersTaken together, the unprofitable contracts and escalating expenses madeour liquidity situation very tenuous. To solve these problems..... The sh*tty management and now they have the balls to try and fix it at your expense. |
Originally Posted by TristarJS30
(Post 1181679)
June 1st. My guess is he will cut to the bone as much as he can so Spanjers can come in and get the "support" of the employee group and try to "win" us back. Sorta like good cop, bad cop.
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Who are the five jack@sses who voted for concessions in the poll? There ought to be a public roll call roster.
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Let me summarize this letter:
We screwed up in negotiating our contracts by signing agreements that were too cheap; this happened because we didn't do our due diligence or have the skill to correctly assess our costs. We screwed up integrating our airlines because we didn't properly foresee, or have the skill to properly foresee, the complexity involved, nor did we have the skill to make up for this shortcoming. We screwed up in our assessment of how to "right-size" the management team; i.e., we allowed too many overpriced management types to stay on board even though they were not needed. In essence, I failed miserably at my job as CEO. I now ask you, the labor groups, to bail us out. I've tried desperately to get some extra revenue from Delta and United. United was reasonable but Delta, being the pricks that they are and seeing an opportunity to keep their foot on the collective throats of their regional partners, refused. Now, despite this, I'm blaming you, the pilots, for not accepting drastic reductions to your already absurdly low pay and benefits. This is all your fault. And now, we are going to make sure you get it even worse. But I'm going to try to pay myself more. Yours always, Mr. Douche-nozzle. |
"A new pilot contract that added millions of payroll dollars to ourday-to-day operating expenses but weren’t scheduled to be reimbursed formore than a year after the new contract went into place·"
Leave it to management to complain about pilots making $25k/year. |
The union is really representing the lifers as its ran by them. We need to shut this place down if only to try to raise the bar to prevent a career of this BS. Let it burn. Vote NO on anything and run the company into the ground.
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When United tried to force crap contracts on ACA and Air Wis nobody took pay cuts and nobody got raises. I know what happened to ACA but at least KS backed his people and said he wouldn't accept a subpar contract.
In this case we accepted subpar contacts and the our leaders got massive pay increases and then turn around "yet again" and say its employees are over paid. I'm stunned by this latest letter. I agree it's time to shut this place down. In 2012 with gas prices at 4+ $ a gallon your really gonna say you need someone making 30K a year to take a cut while you just got a 200K raise is inhuman. STFD. |
A business model that cannot afford to pay it's labor industry average wages is no longer a viable business model. This place is (and was) truly managed by some of the most inept individuals in the industry. Let it burn, it doesn't deserve to exist anymore.
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He basically said give it up or ill have the courts take it from you. I say screw this place. You know what really grinds my gears, that fact that management can fail at their jobs and we are held responsible. I would rather see this place burn to the ground before I give any type of concession.
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Saw on CNBC (was on when I was in the gym) a graph showing employee productivity vs pay. It was astounding. Productivity was substantially up while pay was the inverse. Sad state of where we are heading. The point was the upper class was becoming extreme upper class while the middle class is vanishing.
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 1181787)
Saw on CNBC (was on when I was in the gym) a graph showing employee productivity vs pay. It was astounding. Productivity was substantially up while pay was the inverse. Sad state of where we are heading. The point was the upper class was becoming extreme upper class while the middle class is vanishing.
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Originally Posted by Noseeums
(Post 1181792)
Yup. You're forced to work more to meet your bills if you're paid less. It might not be the highest quality or safest productivity, but hey since when does any of that matter?
Oh wait, so is commitment to finical responsibility and valuing our employees:rolleyes:. Burn it and then let it sink. |
You forgot the highlight the best part....
We also hope to achieve our objectives without theadded expense and distraction of having to ask the court to intervene byrejecting our collective bargaining agreements under Section 1113 of theBankruptcy Code – as virtually all other airlines have done before (and asAmerican Airlines is currently seeking to do) The half-wit is actually trying to dangle the carrot of a "1113" as an incentive to give whatever concessions maangement asks for. Who in their right mind would ever believe that the company will not 100% go for the 1113 motion, trying to throw out the JCBA? Also, what moron would think that by agreeing in full to these concessions would prevent a 1113 request. Let him ask for the 1113, and while he is asking he can explain those raises that he and Johnny S received. |
Wow, this is really distasteful and a slap in the face by your management group after receiving hearty bonuses. Good luck guys, stand your ground and if that means the place folds, so be it...
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The article Menke mentions discusses Eagle and their likelihood of getting larger regional aircraft....does anyone know what is happening with regard to the Delta negotiations. I am trying to follow that on the forums, but a lot of their posts are over my head.
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Hey, let's look at what is important here. His pay raise will stay in tact while he exits. At least he can dry his tears with the extra bills.
Screw him. |
We also hope to achieve our objectives without theadded expense and distraction of having to ask the court to intervene byrejecting our collective bargaining agreements under Section 1113 of theBankruptcy Code |
Originally Posted by atrdriver
(Post 1181710)
Who are the five jack@sses who voted for concessions in the poll? There ought to be a public roll call roster.
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We also hope to achieve our objectives without theadded expense and distraction of having to ask the court to intervene byrejecting our collective bargaining agreements under Section 1113 of theBankruptcy Code First, ask the non union employees how they are going to like it on Tuesday when the company TELLS them what their new pay and benefit package is, while unionized employees will get to negotiate. Second, when the company asks for a 1113 motion, it will be union lawyers arguing against that motion in front of the judge. The union is far from perfect but I could not imagine going through this without a union. |
Originally Posted by The Juice
(Post 1181887)
Are you serious?
First, ask the non union employees how they are going to like it on Tuesday when the company TELLS them what their new pay and benefit package is, while unionized employees will get to negotiate. Second, when the company asks for a 1113 motion, it will be union lawyers arguing against that motion in front of the judge. The union is far from perfect but I could not imagine going through this without a union. As his letter mentioned: The concessions that we will be seeking now include wages, work rules, and modifications to our health and 401(k) plans. |
Shut it down. With even LOWER wages, sh!tt!er work rules, and worse labor relations, who will stick around to see this place succeed?
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Shut it down. With even LOWER wages, sh!tt!er work rules, and worse labor relations, who will stick around to see this place succeed? |
Originally Posted by The Juice
(Post 1181963)
Ive already bailed.
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Everybody relax, I have been telling myself not to get to worked up over the companys first offer. By all means if you are not happy here please leave. Instead of sinking the boat do us all a favor and just jump off.
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Originally Posted by Jamers
(Post 1181956)
Shut it down. With even LOWER wages, sh!tt!er work rules, and worse labor relations, who will stick around to see this place succeed?
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Originally Posted by Will
(Post 1181976)
Everybody relax, I have been telling myself not to get to worked up over the companys first offer. By all means if you are not happy here please leave. Instead of sinking the boat do us all a favor and just jump off.
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Hallelujah!
Never in all of my time at Pinnacle did I think i'd live to see 87% agreeing that its time to burn the place to the ground rather than agreeing to any of their bull**** terms.
Hallelujah!!!! Liquidate the place folks! There ain't nothing for any single one of us to gain by Pinnacle (i mean Mesaba) staying afloat. Burn it, liquidate it, and come back later when its more decent of a work place. Set an example, and the rest will follow! |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1181981)
Those who are on everyone's no fly list and can't get hired anywhere else. Other than that, I have faith those who want to leave will at some point soon. I don't think Pinnacle Corp's bankruptcy is going to be anything like the Mesaba shamruptcy. It's going to be far worse, with implications throughout the regional industry. The smart ones have already left Pinnacle. The smarter ones left the industry.
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Originally Posted by LoudFastRules
(Post 1181991)
Please try to remember, it is not an easy job market out there. There are still over 2000 pilots at Pinnacle. Take away the very top guys who will still be 900 Captains until the doors close, out of everyone else, the vast majority are trying to find something better. I would appreciate it if you weren't so insulting to those less fortunate than you.
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And yes, there are plenty of guys who are trying to get interviews with JetBlue, Virgin, and Spirit. Those three places aren't exactly clamoring to interview every perfectly well qualified pilot who applies. They are very competitive. Good for those guys who were lucky enough to land an interview and then a job offer. Hundreds, if not thousands, of qualified pilots have not gotten interviews or offers. If you know the magic quality that gets a guy a phone call or friendly email invitation, please share.
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