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copurnikus 06-15-2012 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by donlynn05 (Post 1212639)
I interviewed Tuesday in IAH. They said we should here something by monday, anyone who interviewed last week hear anything different? Also, how many people interviewed wednesday and thursday? 15 on Tuesday. I left feeling pretty good about my interview, and felt I nailed it.

They are fairly quick to respond- mine was a few days but it was a holiday week.

What 06-15-2012 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by copurnikus (Post 1212629)
I actually do not have a problem with a training contract. They are making a sizeable investment in my skill set and I think it only fair they should get some return on that. I just hope I am not being duped w the bonus. It would suck to start the job and already be bitter, lol

They are making an investment to give you the tools required for their specific task, you don't owe them anything!!! They are not training you to fly an airplane, you already have that skill... They are training you to fly their airplane. Also have you seen the disparity between year 1 and 2 pay. Don't you think they recoup part of their investment there. They have a 2 year commitment to tie people off so they don't bail, it's a lot harder to bail after 2 years! Also a bonus that isn't on paper don't expect to get it. Even with the 5K you will make less at RAH than most of the other regionals hiring during your first year!

MachJ 06-15-2012 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by copurnikus (Post 1212625)
Has everything to do with them honoring their word, and what to expect in the future from a prospective employer.

Wait, you expected Republic to honor their word!? Really?????
You clearly did not do your homework before applying. As a start, I recommend watching the episode of Undercover Boss with Rev. Bedford and then research the promises he made (on national TV!) to the employees of Frontier.

copurnikus 06-15-2012 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1212674)
They are making an investment to give you the tools required for their specific task, you don't owe them anything!!! They are not training you to fly an airplane, you already have that skill... They are training you to fly their airplane. Also have you seen the disparity between year 1 and 2 pay. Don't you think they recoup part of their investment there. They have a 2 year commitment to tie people off so they don't bail, it's a lot harder to bail after 2 years! Also a bonus that isn't on paper don't expect to get it. Even with the 5K you will make less at RAH than most of the other regionals hiring during your first year!

They don't recoup much at all if someone gets a very marketable type and 4 weeks later goes to China to make $12000 a month. And I don't pay a dime of the $20000 if I do what I like to do, which is show up and put in an honest day's work.First year pay has been discussed ad nauseum, and I don't think there has been anything left unsaid. Yes it sucks, and most in here have acquiesced to it at some point right or wrong. I have been holding off, and doing what everyone recommends for years but it has not produced the killer corporate career path or improved life at the regionals. Time to take my number.

Oskeewowow 06-15-2012 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 1212678)
Wait, you expected Republic to honor their word!? Really?????
You clearly did not do your homework before applying. As a start, I recommend watching the episode of Undercover Boss with Rev. Bedford and then research the promises he made (on national TV!) to the employees of Frontier.

+1. Corporate culture at RAH is to lie through your teeth. It starts from the very top and down through most but not all of middle management.

BoilerUP 06-15-2012 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by copurnikus (Post 1212701)
They don't recoup much at all if someone gets a very marketable type and 4 weeks later goes to China to make $12000 a month.

Yeah, in reality that doesn't happen.

Foreign airlines aren't going hire somebody with a wet-ink E170/E190 type rating and very little time in type (let alone PIC), let alone pay them those kind of wages.

copurnikus 06-15-2012 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 1212678)
Wait, you expected Republic to honor their word!? Really?????
You clearly did not do your homework before applying. As a start, I recommend watching the episode of Undercover Boss with Rev. Bedford and then research the promises he made (on national TV!) to the employees of Frontier.

I didn't say I expected them to, I said I wanted to know what to expect. That was the premise of the post. Looking for some corroboration on the bonuses being issued.

copurnikus 06-15-2012 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 1212726)
Yeah, in reality that doesn't happen.

Foreign airlines aren't going hire somebody with a wet-ink E170/E190 type rating and very little time in type (let alone PIC), let alone pay them those kind of wages.

Yes it was an exaggeration. There is still some value in a type from FSI and a real cost to the company that paid for it. Perhaps a more realistic scenario would be upon completion of training, regional b,which you prefer for the reason of your choosing, calls you out of their hiring pool for a class date. My point still stands.

Systemized 06-15-2012 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by copurnikus (Post 1212743)
Yes it was an exaggeration. There is still some value in a type from FSI and a real cost to the company that paid for it. Perhaps a more realistic scenario would be upon completion of training, regional b,which you prefer for the reason of your choosing, calls you out of their hiring pool for a class date. My point still stands.

Is Republic's E170 training done in house or with FSI or some other training facility?

And do they have an AQP program in place?

ThrustMonkey 06-15-2012 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by copurnikus (Post 1212743)
Yes it was an exaggeration. There is still some value in a type from FSI and a real cost to the company that paid for it. Perhaps a more realistic scenario would be upon completion of training, regional b,which you prefer for the reason of your choosing, calls you out of their hiring pool for a class date. My point still stands.

Listen, you seem to have it all figured out with a defensive response to those who are telling you like it is. If the bonus isn't in writing, I would expect not to get it. I've been at this place for over 5 years and I can tell you they lie through their teeth on a daily basis at the puzzle factory in IND if it saves money. My best advice to you is to LISTEN to those that have been here and have knowledge on what may or may not happen in any circumstance. Be humble and listen. It will serve you well. Good luck.


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