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SkyHigh 10-31-2006 08:04 PM

Per Diem
 

Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 75402)
Skyhigh. I am not condoning the (fuedal systemesque)ways of the regionals, but just why can't you consider per diem as pay? If you were at home, you would still have to buy your own food.

Per Diem is not pay. It is compensation for the extra costs associatied with being away from home. The hotel room that the company provides is not pay either.


SKyHigh

SkyHigh 10-31-2006 08:29 PM

Satisfaction
 

Originally Posted by kansas (Post 75386)
But I don't want to be any of those. Should I go be a teacher just so I can have the summer off? Should I go be a firefighter or cop just for the pay? Where do you get this information? Keep in mind that most of the general public thinks that pilots make huge sums of dough and have a great number of days off. Have you fallen into this same trap in appraising the careers that you mention?


As a disillusioned airline pilot I had a few years to examine other lines of work and still do. As with flying I have tried to compare careers in the most unbiased manner possible. Compensation rates of other professions are public record.

Pilots like to manipulate the facts in order to support a reality that doesnt exist. They falsify incomes by counting things that they shouldn't in order to support a fantasy. Unless you fully take stock of what you earn against other similar professions it is difficult to know what your true value is.

A simple test is to see how people with other comparable careers live versus a typical regional airline pilot. To me this acid test is proof positive. Pilots I know work constantly and live in starter homes if they are lucky. The firefighters whom I am friends with have speed boats, families, dirt bikes and live middle class lifestyles. Only you can decide if the sacrifices are worth it.

SkyHigh

TonyC 10-31-2006 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 75367)

Don't forget teachers. They get two weeks in December, one week in the spring every legal holiday and the entire summer off. In my state the listed average pay for teachers is 54K. Add to that a second summer job and now you are talking some serious dough.



Have you thought about becoming a geography teacher?



Gibraltar...


Dover...


Bosporus...


The Dardenelles...


Magellan...


Bering...


Malacca...


Taiwan...



You could explore the economic, political, and military importance of straits... you could challenge students to memorize all the straits in the U.S. You could complete a graduate degree and become known as Dr. Strait, and that would definitely boost your strait pay. :D


Oh, I see possibilities here.



;)




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bla bla bla 10-31-2006 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by JMT21 (Post 75412)
It's just the name of the game, you don't go into the career expecting to be gone only 40 hours a week.

Name of the game? Want this lifestyle, be my guest. With an attitude like yours, the schedules WILL get worse. If you want to be a part of this industry, please come with an attitude to improve the quality of life. Dont be such a pushover.....

BURflyer 10-31-2006 08:59 PM

I have no idea what the point of this thread is. I am making a very comfortable living doing what I love to do and in a few more years I'll be going into the six figures. How many can say that about their jobs? Ask any 9-5er see what they say about their job.

bla bla bla 10-31-2006 09:45 PM

Yeah I love my job when I actually fly.
Of the 376 hours I was gone last month I flew 50 myself. Of the 50 that were my leg, actual hand flying was problay a total of 6 hours, figuring 10 min's a flight at 35 flights.

I was with my wife 3 hours a night for the nights home since she works late.

I spent 91 unproductive hours in a hotel by my self with no compensation.

I think the point is, flying for a regional compared to other jobs blows. (note, no sugar coating). We should never let our love for flying be part of our compensation package.

And yes I am working on another carreer.

flynavyj 10-31-2006 10:16 PM

if you're doing this for the strict love of hand flying an airplane, then you should probably look into a different type of flying, as no airline, regional or major is going to give you that satisfaction, unless you're flying a nice piece of historic equipment.

Truth is, millions of individuals hate their job, and millions of individuals will retire from the same job they hate. Typically, all we do on here is ***** about how little we're getting paid, although i'm sure we heard what we'd make in the interview, and then after we make crappy pay, we complain about it a lil' more...all said and done, i'd rather not hear the complaining unless someone's doing something to fix the problem.

Also, what good does it do complaining if you're not even in the freakin industry anymore?

FlyJSH 10-31-2006 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 75422)
Have you thought about becoming a geography teacher?



Gibraltar...


Dover...


Bosporus...


The Dardenelles...


Magellan...


Bering...


Malacca...


Taiwan...



You could explore the economic, political, and military importance of straits... you could challenge students to memorize all the straits in the U.S. You could complete a graduate degree and become known as Dr. Strait, and that would definitely boost your strait pay. :D


Oh, I see possibilities here.



;)




.

LOL that was stait.... er strate.... (oh scr@w it) RIGHT to the point :)

buffalopilot 11-01-2006 03:28 AM

my uncle was a cop in ny and after 25 years on the force with overtime he only made 80 grand. 25 years at a regional makes more than that. In fact after you upgrade you make that with in 10 years at a regional

JMT21 11-01-2006 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by bla bla bla (Post 75423)
Name of the game? Want this lifestyle, be my guest. With an attitude like yours, the schedules WILL get worse. If you want to be a part of this industry, please come with an attitude to improve the quality of life. Dont be such a pushover.....

Name of the game is exactly what it is and no, I don't want 'this' lifestyle or to be a part of 'this' industry. I'm pursuing a career in accounting. How can you call me a pushover for pointing out that you shouldn't expect to be 'at the office' just 40 hours a week? Is that a false statement? What do you care about my attitude anyway, arn't you on your way out?


Originally Posted by BURflyer
How many can say that about their jobs?

Give me about 7 years.


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