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Mesabi 08-14-2012 02:28 PM

Need a CRJ TOLD Card
 
I was a part of the continuing mass exodus of Mesaba/Pinnacle/Colgan guys and now I'm working for a 135 company. We're in the process of aquiring a Challenger 850 (corporate version of the CRJ 200) and I'm heavily involved in the development of the SOPs for it.

Is there anyone flying the 200 that could help me obtain a copy of a TOLD card for the airplane? I'd really like to get one of the Mesaba ones, since that's what I'm familiar with but any others would be welcome.

I'm looking to use it as a template to base our own TOLD card on so I won't be directly copying it or anything. Just basically using it as a guide to steer our ideas.

With that in mind, something as simple as a cell phone photo of the front & back, as long as it's ledgible, would be adequate. Thanks!

freezingflyboy 08-14-2012 05:07 PM

Isn't that something that comes with the airplane? Like in the owner's manual?

What 08-14-2012 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 1245661)
Isn't that something that comes with the airplane? Like in the owner's manual?

Oh no, now you've done it... Making sense, it might be based on the CRJ 200 but the weights and thus speeds will be different.

WstCstCmtr 08-14-2012 05:50 PM

Absolutely. It's called an FCOM.

Weights and speeds would be the same as it's the same airframe/limitations.

Buying a 20-30 million dollars jet means you don't need to come to a regional pilot forum and ask for help/handouts. Call bombardier.

Anyway if you get a SAFA ramp check and they see those cards they will ask where the approved info is coming from. You better be able to find it.

DeadHead 08-14-2012 05:52 PM

Did a google image search for "told card" and saw a bunch of stuff pop up.
Might wanna give that a shot.

What 08-14-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by WstCstCmtr (Post 1245689)
Absolutely. It's called an FCOM.

Weights and speeds would be the same as it's the same airframe/limitations.

Buying a 20-30 million dollars jet means you don't need to come to a regional pilot forum and ask for help/handouts. Call bombardier.

Anyway if you get a SAFA ramp check and they see those cards they will ask where the approved info is coming from. You better be able to find it.

Should have clarified, airlines tailor their own speeds with compliance of the manufacture limitations and FAA approval. Airlines operate their airplanes differently but have been approved as such, using the weight and speed combinations of a different carrier would not be the best idea

Bigshooter107 08-14-2012 06:10 PM

Been part of 2 bombardier deliveries, bless your heart . If u spend several million bucks they will bring these things..

Flaps20 08-14-2012 06:12 PM

Hey WstCsT....so why then did you bother us with this post about a TSA manual?

"Anyone have one or know where to get one to look through?
Just wanting to check some stuff that they were saying that I have never heard. I feel I was harrassed and verbally assaulted tonight on SFO.
Thanks in advance"

I'm sorry that you were "verbally assaulted" by the TSA. Maybe you should remember how that made you feel and quit being such a [part of a cactus].

theken 08-14-2012 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by WstCstCmtr (Post 1245689)
Anyway if you get a SAFA ramp check and they see those cards they will ask where the approved info is coming from. You better be able to find it.

it will be a part 91 ramp check... as someone who flew quite a bit of corporate pt 91 I can safely say no inspector I have ever dealt with has cared about the TOLD card...

DeadHead 08-14-2012 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by WstCstCmtr (Post 1245689)
Absolutely. It's called an FCOM.

Weights and speeds would be the same as it's the same airframe/limitations.

Buying a 20-30 million dollars jet means you don't need to come to a regional pilot forum and ask for help/handouts. Call bombardier.

Anyway if you get a SAFA ramp check and they see those cards they will ask where the approved info is coming from. You better be able to find it.

http://sustainabledad.com/wp-content...deen_speed.jpg


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