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There is a small window in which to get hired at a mainline and have a good career. If you get hired in say 5 years you're going to be stuck behind guys most likely younger than you for the entire duration. Yes, there will be retirements and some people will get hired but not all will have good careers. Like some people said you truly have to love flying because there are much better careers out there. People in right now could be in for a fairly decent one. I would never start training now. Total waste of money. |
Originally Posted by sulkair
(Post 1470905)
Ramper tells me he'll only let me out the jetway door if I give him 5 bucks. I hate that stupid joke, and I tell him "sorry I'm broke" and push through. He yells down the stairs at me: "Don't lie to me, I know what you make!" I look back and say "are you sure you do? See these three bars, I'm only a first officer" He says, "well it's gotta be near 6 figures." I say: "Try 35K dude" He just stares. I proceed and do my walk around. He catches up to me on the other side of the plane and asks me: "are you being serious about that?" I tell him: Yes, after 10 years at this place that is what I make! He sheepishly says: "Wow, I make 50"
PATHETIC. full disclosure: I'm quoting reserve guarantee, which I bid on purpose. If I flew 85 hour lines, I might come close to 39K Ok, I'm not one for calling people out, but there is absolutely no way this is true if this was a regional ramper and not mainline. I actually started on the ramp for Comair, which of the regional customer service groups was actually one of the "better" paid. I started at $8.50/hour and after 3-years was making $9.69 when I got hired in to my flight class. Many people I was working with that had been there 15-20 years at my outstation were topped out at $13.90/hour. In order to raise families, most would routinely pull 70+ hour weeks to try to get as much overtime as possible. I know I pulled a couple 100+ hour weeks (6-days on, working 5 double shifts from 5am-midnight) and I wasn't the only one. So if this is a true story, then this ramper was working some extreme overtime to come even close to that pay, or was a mainline ramper. Mainline could come close to that amount after about 7.5-years of service at Delta with a decent amount of OT, or after 10.5 years they'd be relatively close with only minimal needed OT. |
Originally Posted by PCLCREW
(Post 1472364)
This is absolutely correct. Anyone starting flight training right now could be in for a very poor career.
People in right now could be in for a fairly decent one. I would never start training now. Total waste of money. |
Originally Posted by Burlcfii
(Post 1247628)
Anyone heard anything about possible starting pay increases for FO's now that the new FAA 1500 hr minimums are in place. I dont see how they can expect to pay some one 1800 a month to fly with these minimums?
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Congrats alpa
National fast-food wage protests kick off in New York - latimes.com
Hey congratulations Dues paying regional pilots. Even McDonald Employee's have beaten regional pilots to the punch on compensation disparities. |
Originally Posted by BlueHenFR8Dawg
(Post 1472444)
Reason I let my CFI expire at the end of July. Sad state of affairs. We're jumping overseas for higher paying contract jobs and foreigners are being recruited to fill our regional positions...
I feel kind of guilty actually, but I'm so busy right now, and what's the point? I sort of thought it might be fun to teach my son when he gets older, if he was interested, but guess that won't be happening now. Probably the best parenting decision ever made for me. |
Originally Posted by Tartan Army
(Post 1472383)
Ok, I'm not one for calling people out, but there is absolutely no way this is true if this was a regional ramper and not mainline. I actually started on the ramp for Comair, which of the regional customer service groups was actually one of the "better" paid. I started at $8.50/hour and after 3-years was making $9.69 when I got hired in to my flight class. Many people I was working with that had been there 15-20 years at my outstation were topped out at $13.90/hour.
In order to raise families, most would routinely pull 70+ hour weeks to try to get as much overtime as possible. I know I pulled a couple 100+ hour weeks (6-days on, working 5 double shifts from 5am-midnight) and I wasn't the only one. So if this is a true story, then this ramper was working some extreme overtime to come even close to that pay, or was a mainline ramper. Mainline could come close to that amount after about 7.5-years of service at Delta with a decent amount of OT, or after 10.5 years they'd be relatively close with only minimal needed OT. |
Originally Posted by FerrisBluer
(Post 1472720)
National fast-food wage protests kick off in New York - latimes.com
Hey congratulations Dues paying regional pilots. Even McDonald Employee's have beaten regional pilots to the punch on compensation disparities. |
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