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stage5 09-11-2012 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ernst Kessler (Post 1259404)
The word on the street is that Pinnacle has double defaulted on their contractual requirements for both completion and on-time performance for the recent quarter. This has caused a breach of contract for the aircraft service agreement. Delta is now legally able to terminate the contract and dispense the flying to another regional. Apparently the mass exodus of pilots jumping ship has led to unprecedented cancellations, aggravated by the new dispatch software change that caused over 500 cancellations in one week alone.

Can anyone provide information on this?

i'd assume they'd have (at least somewhat) similar requirements for all their DCI partners (?)

in that case, looks like at least so far (month to date) everyone's favorite "in before the lock" regional is doing a lot worse than pinnacle?

Saabs 09-11-2012 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Ernst Kessler (Post 1259404)
The word on the street is that Pinnacle has double defaulted on their contractual requirements for both completion and on-time performance for the recent quarter. This has caused a breach of contract for the aircraft service agreement. Delta is now legally able to terminate the contract and dispense the flying to another regional. Apparently the mass exodus of pilots jumping ship has led to unprecedented cancellations, aggravated by the new dispatch software change that caused over 500 cancellations in one week alone.

Can anyone provide information on this?

Ah this kid again. Hope he read English at a proficient level this time (check the back of your license).

And no I ain't defending pinnacle. Could care less

lakehouse 09-11-2012 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1259444)
Ah this kid again. Hope he read English at a proficient level this time (check the back of your license).

And no I ain't defending pinnacle. Could care less

http://www.benreed.net/wp-content/up...mar_police.jpg

higney85 09-11-2012 06:16 PM

The new ASA supposedly accounted for this while being financed. The beauty of DL running the show is that, from their experience, they know how it plays out.

I personally believe the "fun" is yet to come. Anyone with a paycheck coming from PNCL should be exploring any opportunity that looks "better" in the 3-5 year timeline and offers career progression from 5+.

ShyGuy 09-11-2012 09:07 PM

At Pinnacle, I really feel bad for the 2007-2008 FOs who have had 4-5+ years of SIC time only and are now looking at starting all over again at the bottom of the list at another regional. They deserve better.

rightside02 09-12-2012 03:40 AM


At Pinnacle, I really feel bad for the 2007-2008 FOs who have had 4-5+ years of SIC time only and are now looking at starting all over again at the bottom of the list at another regional. They deserve better.
What this guy said !!!!! 2 years I did there and left , I can't imagine doing 5 with little hope of a better future , good luck guys

MunkyButtr 09-12-2012 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 1259416)
Sounds like the company negotiating team. Do you think you are putting fear in the hearts of the pilots when the pilots are to the "I dont care what happens" point? "Rumor from the school house" this and "Word on the street" that. Is Delta now legally able to terminate our contract and dispense the flying to another regional? OF COURSE THEY CAN. They have been able to do that since April 1, 2012. Nothing new here. Pinnacle is in bankruptcy and Delta can do with us what they please. They could have pulled the plug that day or started an orderly wind down of the fleet like they forced us to do with United. We will be here as long as Delta needs us and not a minute longer contract or not.

I'm always curious how these rumors start. Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no public info to back any of this flamebait up. Mass cancelations at Pinnacle is nothing new. Delta threats are nothing new. Where do people come up with this stuff?

Fly782 09-12-2012 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1259902)
I'm always curious how these rumors start. Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no public info to back any of this flamebait up. Mass cancelations at Pinnacle is nothing new. Delta threats are nothing new. Where do people come up with this stuff?

Most bad rumors start for a reason and are normally because someone leaked something before hand. Looking back, Shyguy told us all about the BK, Comair pilots knew the approx date they were shutting down, Skywest getting AA flying has been known for awhile now. Some rumors are BS but it seems the serious ones start somewhere and come true. Most just tend to stick to the "this cant happen here" mentality and do not lift an eyebrow OR defend the company by saying this is the norm. Maybe it is true, but with what happened to freedom it definately seems as if Delta is/will play hard ball. A similar situation just happened to my Fiancee actually, she found out through the grape vine that the owners of the business she works at is selling. The owner found out everyone was talking about it and demanded to know who is spreading it and that THEY are not selling.... Guess what they announced 2 days later?

Boomer 09-12-2012 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1259909)
A similar situation just happened to my Fiancee actually, she found out through the grape vine that the owners of the business she works at is selling. The owner found out everyone was talking about it and demanded to know who is spreading it and that THEY are not selling.... Guess what they announced 2 days later?

That your fiancee's company is hiring GoJetsss to provide their regional feed?

PerpetualFlyer 09-12-2012 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1260083)
That your fiancee's company is hiring GoJetsss to provide their regional feed?

Ha, this guy!!!


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