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Ernst Kessler 09-08-2012 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1258171)
If you understood the association structure and how mainline and regional contracts are negotiated and how RFPs and CPAs/ASAs are negotiated and awarded, you would understand that there is absolutely no conflict of interest.

THIS POST MADE ME LAUGH!!!!

Are you freakin kidding me????????

WHAT A JOKE!!!!

Saabs 09-08-2012 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Ernst Kessler (Post 1258177)
THIS POST MADE ME LAUGH!!!!

Are you freakin kidding me????????

WHAT A JOKE!!!!

No response to me calling u out? Whoo! I said whoooo! Ashley Schaefer BMW!

johnso29 09-08-2012 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Ernst Kessler (Post 1258177)
THIS POST MADE ME LAUGH!!!!

Are you freakin kidding me????????

WHAT A JOKE!!!!

You probably won't be excited to be unionless when JB gets bought. ;)

Avroman 09-08-2012 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1258171)
If you understood the association structure and how mainline and regional contracts are negotiated and how RFPs and CPAs/ASAs are negotiated and awarded, you would understand that there is absolutely no conflict of interest.

Then there is not a true equal standard of representation....

Nevets 09-09-2012 05:59 AM



Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1258171)
If you understood the association structure and how mainline and regional contracts are negotiated and how RFPs and CPAs/ASAs are negotiated and awarded, you would understand that there is absolutely no conflict of interest.

THIS POST MADE ME LAUGH!!!!

Are you freakin kidding me????????

WHAT A JOKE!!!!
Nope, no joke at all. No regional ALPA MEC can tell ANY other airline MEC what to negotiate for. Each MEC is an independent union, especially when it comes to what they negotiate for. Mainline MECs negotiate with mainline management on the scope of their job. Once that is settled mainline management puts out an RFPS for whatever flying the mainline MEC was unable or unwilling to scope in. The lowest regional bidder wins. Then the regional management negotiates with regional MECs on the pay an work rules for those scraps. There is never a time where regional management or regional MECs have any say in operating bigger or more aircraft. It has already been decided between mainline management and mainline MEC. Also, at no time does any mainline MEC or regional MEC tell any other MEC what to negotiate for. And if they did, they would be laughed out of the room. The regionals exist ONLY because mainline MECs cannot or will not scope that flying. It's their flying to keep or give away. They are the ones who let us regionals exist. Therefore, no conflict of interest whatsoever.

Nevets 09-09-2012 06:00 AM



Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1258171)
If you understood the association structure and how mainline and regional contracts are negotiated and how RFPs and CPAs/ASAs are negotiated and awarded, you would understand that there is absolutely no conflict of interest.

Then there is not a true equal standard of representation....
What do you mean?

Theoden 09-09-2012 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Ernst Kessler (Post 1258177)
THIS POST MADE ME LAUGH!!!!

Are you freakin kidding me????????

WHAT A JOKE!!!!

Regional unions push for higher wages at regional airlines which makes it more difficult for regionals to undercut mainline flying. I don't understand how there's a conflict of interests. Higher pay at regionals might deprive regionals of flying, but it certainly does not hurt mainline pilots. Lower pay at regionals undercuts mainline pilots so a weaker regional union is bad for both regional and mainline pilots.

Red97Vette 09-10-2012 08:07 AM

Operator of Delta Connection names CFO - Atlanta Business Chronicle

looks like the old silver CFO is now at pinnacle. good luck.....

texaspilot76 09-11-2012 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1254868)
Eagle is the next Expressjet, or Compass. The efficiency of Eagle is top in the industry. With the kickbacks from the employee groups it will open make that stronger. If we get spun off be ready for another player in the whipsaw game everywhere. Or wait for your airline to buy us, and enter into an internally whipsaw.

Skywest is already tell their employees they arent as competitive as Eagle.

I don't know about that. According to DOT stats, eagle has one of the worst on time performances. In addition, buzz from US management states that eagle does not make money in its current form, and in event of a merger, their operation would need to be drastically modified.

lakehouse 09-11-2012 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 1259324)
I don't know about that. According to DOT stats, eagle has one of the worst on time performances. In addition, buzz from US management states that eagle does not make money in its current form, and in event of a merger, their operation would need to be drastically modified.

source?? The DOT stats I think are slightly skewed, since we are larger then many we are compared to. We have been making the on time and completion bonuses all year.


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