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Doug Masters 09-10-2012 06:15 AM

Asa dfw?
 
Buddy just texted me about a rumor of an ASA CRJ200 base for AA flying. Anyone else heard this?

johnso29 09-10-2012 06:18 AM

No. But I did hear a rumor about AMR buying used CRJ200's.

WAVIT Inbound 09-10-2012 06:31 AM

ASA/XJT DFW Base

SKYW LAX base

Both new flying for American. Stay tuned its not 9 am in SGU yet. ; )

stage5 09-10-2012 06:41 AM

I believe you can add ORD to that list,
not sure what carrier though

flysooner9 09-10-2012 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1258666)
No. But I did hear a rumor about AMR buying used CRJ200's.

Yeah because that makes so much sense when they all ready have over 200 50 seaters.

flysooner9 09-10-2012 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by stage5 (Post 1258675)
I believe you can add ORD to that list,
not sure what carrier though

Well why don't you just add MIA, JFK, LGA, and SJU to the list to.

lakehouse 09-10-2012 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1258679)
Well why don't you just add MIA, JFK, LGA, and SJU to the list to.

because SJU is closing.

N927EV 09-10-2012 07:01 AM

No brah. They're taking over Mia flying.

flysooner9 09-10-2012 07:01 AM

Nope it's only closing as a NA base. It's going to be revamped via cape air. Heard it here first.

astec 09-10-2012 07:01 AM

Screw the others, let's just say sju closing and call it a day.

Get me off this rock!!!

lakehouse 09-10-2012 07:03 AM

knowing AMRs history, they may give you guys 15 airplanes, and republic 15 airplanes.

RJ Pilot 09-10-2012 07:32 AM

eaglefly in 3...2...1....

Red97Vette 09-10-2012 08:16 AM

I've heard about the MIA and DFW base being a possibility, problem is I've also heard that pigs can fly.. not holding my breath.

Saabs 09-10-2012 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1258677)
Yeah because that makes so much sense when they all ready have over 200 50 seaters.

Cant they replace some eagle flying with a cheaper regional? Don't have a clue how bankruptcy works and getting rid of contracts.

clearprop 09-10-2012 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Red97Vette (Post 1258725)
I've heard about the MIA and DFW base being a possibility, problem is I've also heard that pigs can fly.. not holding my breath.

with enough thrust.......

Fly782 09-10-2012 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1258677)
Yeah because that makes so much sense when they all ready have over 200 50 seaters.

They can buy 9Es which are the newest around...Which can be flown by a cheaper alternative I am sure.

johnso29 09-10-2012 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1258677)
Yeah because that makes so much sense when they all ready have over 200 50 seaters.

It does if they're replacing some E145's. There is still a market for some 50 seaters. You can tone down the sarcasm.

johnso29 09-10-2012 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1258752)
They can buy 9Es which are the newest around...Which can be flown by a cheaper alternative I am sure.

Bingo. Bye Bye to all Embraers and hello to 140 lightly used CRJ200s.

lakehouse 09-10-2012 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by clearprop (Post 1258731)
with enough thrust.......

ask your Mom about that!

PerpetualFlyer 09-10-2012 09:29 AM

How about with the Comair 200's, or ExpressJet/SkyWest 200's that are included in the Delta 2-1 deal for ComAir 700 and 900's. SkyWest management even said they were looking for a place for the wholly owned 200's. Seems plausible to me.

Fly782 09-10-2012 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1258762)
Bingo. Bye Bye to all Embraers and hello to 140 lightly used CRJ200s.

Which they can then keep a few for eagle and dual qual everyone then contract out the rest. Seems stupid though when there are a ton of MINT Embraers at Eagle...

Spoilers 09-10-2012 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 1258671)
ASA/XJT DFW Base

That would be one hell of a senior base!

MoarAlpha 09-10-2012 10:14 AM

I've been hearing AMR flying rumors for a while now. Is there really any news about this or is it just an old rumor coming about again?

FDX8891 09-10-2012 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 1258792)
I've been hearing AMR flying rumors for a while now. Is there really any news about this or is it just an old rumor coming about again?

Just a rumor that's been blown out of proportion through people playing telephone I'm sure. The company has talked about opportunities on the horizon, but nothing specific.

johnso29 09-10-2012 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1258771)
Which they can then keep a few for eagle and dual qual everyone then contract out the rest. Seems stupid though when there are a ton of MINT Embraers at Eagle...

:D:D........

lakehouse 09-10-2012 10:39 AM

the leases on the EMJs are complicated, and both AMR and the AE union have said this a few times. They are leased long term from the bank of Brazil who told them it was all or nothing on them. I would be amazed to see AMR entirely replaced them with CRJ200s or at least about the 200-250 50seat jets they need going forward. A few RJ airlines would have to hire 2000-3000 pilots while maintaining Eagle, and fully staffing Eagle in the transition. It just seems very complex and people are just making up what they want to benefit themselves as an outcome of these rumors. The only other option is AMR exchanges them 2 for 1 for 175s. I guess the entire dismantle of Eagle could happen as they give the 175s to RAH and keep the CRJ700s and whatever else they get for Eagle CRJ wise, bid out the 175s and bid out the entire 50 seat flying. Seems like a huge friggin gamble that it actually played out. Sounds more like hype and rumors. Also since nothing has happened with the AA pilot contract, I doubt anything is going to happen with feed airlines first, since AA contract stops it till those items are changed.

clearprop 09-10-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1258765)
ask your Mom about that!

ouch.......

Fly782 09-10-2012 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1258807)
the leases on the EMJs are complicated, and both AMR and the AE union have said this a few times. They are leased long term from the bank of Brazil who told them it was all or nothing on them. I would be amazed to see AMR entirely replaced them with CRJ200s or at least about the 200-250 50seat jets they need going forward. A few RJ airlines would have to hire 2000-3000 pilots while maintaining Eagle, and fully staffing Eagle in the transition. It just seems very complex and people are just making up what they want to benefit themselves as an outcome of these rumors. The only other option is AMR exchanges them 2 for 1 for 175s. I guess the entire dismantle of Eagle could happen as they give the 175s to RAH and keep the CRJ700s and whatever else they get for Eagle CRJ wise, bid out the 175s and bid out the entire 50 seat flying. Seems like a huge friggin gamble that it actually played out. Sounds more like hype and rumors. Also since nothing has happened with the AA pilot contract, I doubt anything is going to happen with feed airlines first, since AA contract stops it till those items are changed.

You think alot... I used to do this with 9E and thought everything made sense in my head, then nothing came out remotely close to what I though it would. You have no clue about what will happen even with such information you have given. Airlines are smart and sneaky. Trying to justify anything in this industry will make you lose you medical someday. No regional is safe, no matter the complexity of anything. Everything is a guess these days and typically the craziest scenario is what happens.

What 09-10-2012 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1258807)
the leases on the EMJs are complicated, and both AMR and the AE union have said this a few times. They are leased long term from the bank of Brazil who told them it was all or nothing on them. I would be amazed to see AMR entirely replaced them with CRJ200s or at least about the 200-250 50seat jets they need going forward. A few RJ airlines would have to hire 2000-3000 pilots while maintaining Eagle, and fully staffing Eagle in the transition. It just seems very complex and people are just making up what they want to benefit themselves as an outcome of these rumors. The only other option is AMR exchanges them 2 for 1 for 175s. I guess the entire dismantle of Eagle could happen as they give the 175s to RAH and keep the CRJ700s and whatever else they get for Eagle CRJ wise, bid out the 175s and bid out the entire 50 seat flying. Seems like a huge friggin gamble that it actually played out. Sounds more like hype and rumors. Also since nothing has happened with the AA pilot contract, I doubt anything is going to happen with feed airlines first, since AA contract stops it till those items are changed.

Nothing has happened to the APA contract! What rock have you been livig under, AMR can impose work rules as it sees fit as long as they don't go below the 1113 term sheet, AMR hasn't made any changes to the contract or made anything public. They can contract with Anyone to fly 88 seaters at any time they want, what will they do or get away with is another conversation! The company hasn't made anything public and thus why we have so many rumors!

amcnd 09-10-2012 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1258807)
the leases on the EMJs are complicated, and both AMR and the AE union have said this a few times. They are leased long term from the bank of Brazil who told them it was all or nothing on them. I would be amazed to see AMR entirely replaced them with CRJ200s or at least about the 200-250 50seat jets they need going forward. A few RJ airlines would have to hire 2000-3000 pilots while maintaining Eagle, and fully staffing Eagle in the transition. It just seems very complex and people are just making up what they want to benefit themselves as an outcome of these rumors. The only other option is AMR exchanges them 2 for 1 for 175s. I guess the entire dismantle of Eagle could happen as they give the 175s to RAH and keep the CRJ700s and whatever else they get for Eagle CRJ wise, bid out the 175s and bid out the entire 50 seat flying. Seems like a huge friggin gamble that it actually played out. Sounds more like hype and rumors. Also since nothing has happened with the AA pilot contract, I doubt anything is going to happen with feed airlines first, since AA contract stops it till those items are changed.

The terms were changed.... I see Eagles 135/140's gone.. And maybe the first 20-25 145's... Bet Republic strikes a deal with EMB to exchange those for 175's.. AA wants 255 larger RJ's. And i bet wants only 100-150 smaller 50 seat RJs... I could see SkyWest jumping on LAX. They over lap all the same routes and have MX bases out there. Look how easy it was for them to get PHX up and running.. Same thing different city... So unless Eagle can "bank roll" 255 large RJ's...... There.. You know what.

MoarAlpha 09-10-2012 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1258814)
You think alot... I used to do this with 9E and thought everything made sense in my head, then nothing came out remotely close to what I though it would. You have no clue about what will happen even with such information you have given. Airlines are smart and sneaky. Trying to justify anything in this industry will make you lose you medical someday. No regional is safe, no matter the complexity of anything. Everything is a guess these days and typically the craziest scenario is what happens.

You sir made my day.

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Fly782 09-10-2012 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 1258818)

I shoul have rephrased. Smart in the sense they will find any loophole possible and screw someone to get their way.

MoarAlpha 09-10-2012 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1258821)
I shoul have rephrased. Smart in the sense they will find any loophole possible and screw someone to get their way.

I have to admit I knew what you meant, it was just funny sounding in my head. ;)

lakehouse 09-10-2012 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1258815)
Nothing has happened to the APA contract! What rock have you been livig under, AMR can impose work rules as it sees fit as long as they don't go below the 1113 term sheet, AMR hasn't made any changes to the contract or made anything public. They can contract with Anyone to fly 88 seaters at any time they want, what will they do or get away with is another conversation! The company hasn't made anything public and thus why we have so many rumors!

I was saying they have not yet said what they will do with the aa contract, basically was giving the short version of the second half of your post.

MoarAlpha 09-10-2012 01:37 PM

Ok something is going on because I have four people calling/texting asking if I've heard about an "announcement" today. They are all at work and say the lounge is buzzing.:confused:

lakehouse 09-10-2012 01:43 PM

days almost done, nothing official yet, could just be more horse shat.

Red97Vette 09-10-2012 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 1258880)
Ok something is going on because I have four people calling/texting asking if I've heard about an "announcement" today. They are all at work and say the lounge is buzzing.:confused:

lol. lounge is buzzing? that just means instead of sitting in front of a computer naked in an online forum, they are in person talking face to face. Doesn't make it any more official. Though I wish it did...

N927EV 09-10-2012 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Red97Vette (Post 1258915)
lol. lounge is buzzing? that just means instead of sitting in front of a computer naked in an online forum, they are in person talking face to face. Doesn't make it any more official. Though I wish it did...

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Me too, brah!! So we could send more pilots to the street and disrupt everyone else's by closing a base. Classy!

Red97Vette 09-10-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1258972)
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Me too, brah!! So we could send more pilots to the street and disrupt everyone else's by closing a base. Classy!

there is "class" at the regional level? :eek::confused::rolleyes:

MunkyButtr 09-10-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1258752)
They can buy 9Es which are the newest around...Which can be flown by a cheaper alternative I am sure.

Why would skywest buy 200's when they are about to lose 66 on the Delta contract? Didn't their press release say they were working on flying for those 66?


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