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lavMan 09-12-2012 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1259611)
Yup, AMR seems to be saying to Eagle pilots clearly in this Eaglewire, "sign our deal or be outsourced". Now, whether it's a bluff or not, they will have to decide.

Will AE pilots stand firm and not capitulate to a bad deal and assume risk like AA pilots did, or will they roll over and expose their bellies hoping for a rub ?

I think you know the answer to that? Ah let's see, the word would be.... spineless. Too many folks run around in fear around here. Tail between the legs running now.

eaglefly 09-12-2012 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by lavMan (Post 1259615)
I think you know the answer to that? Ah let's see, the word would be.... spineless. Too many folks run around in fear around here. Tail between the legs running now.

No comment. :cool:

squawkoff 09-12-2012 05:31 AM

From another thread in the regional section. Still people hoping for AE pilots to suffer so they can benefit.


Originally Posted by spudskier (Post 1259563)
Hope it's true! That's gonna go ultra senior




Originally Posted by SiShane (Post 1259581)
Is there any odds of a new hire class being started to fill the new dfw base?


babs 09-12-2012 05:32 AM

Eaglefly, what is the overall sentiment about this on the AA side? Or do they not seem to care as this is just one small problem of most certainly much worse to come?

jumpseat2024 09-12-2012 05:47 AM

Special Eaglewire 09/12/2012
 
at least our name is being shared with SKW and XJT, and not gojets.....yet

I'm just having a hard time figuring out how there won't be furloughs..with LAX and the MIA exec side closing, we surely aren't THAT understaffed..plus I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as our flying being "diversified"

eaglefly 09-12-2012 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by babs (Post 1259620)
Eaglefly, what is the overall sentiment about this on the AA side? Or do they not seem to care as this is just one small problem of most certainly much worse to come?

Outsourcing 23 50-seaters at AE ?

This is more of a message for AE pilots then AA. It is one reason AMR and the UCC needed some move on AA scope, i.e., to give them leverage to do when they need to at Eagle including pressure to force a pilots agreement.

The major outsourcing of our flying will take years to accomplish and the number and size of RJ's along with code-sharing are more important, so this isn't the primary focus.

Just my .02, as always.

Kalamazoo 09-12-2012 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 1259619)
From another thread in the regional section. Still people hoping for AE pilots to suffer so they can benefit.



Happy with our company's success and "hoping" Eagle pilots suffer aren't one in the same and it's pretty simple minded to think otherwise.

eaglefly 09-12-2012 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by jumpseat2024 (Post 1259625)
at least our name is being shared with SKW and XJT, and not gojets.....yet

I'm just having a hard time figuring out how there won't be furloughs..with LAX and the MIA exec side closing, we surely aren't THAT understaffed..plus I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as our flying being "diversified"

Your name won't be "American Eagle" anymore, so get used to that. Just like UAL has multiple carriers as "United Express" soon everyone will have little "DBA" printing on the front by the nose, that's all.

Get used to sharing gates and facilities as well.

eaglefly 09-12-2012 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Kalamazoo (Post 1259628)
Happy with our company's success and "hoping" Eagle pilots suffer aren't one in the same and it's pretty simple minded to think otherwise.

It's also referred to as "rationalization". You see, the future regional industry is doomed to a model whereby any success will have to be at others expense. Rats put in a cage to feed on each other and with that there isnt any long term survival unless you're willing to be the most ruthless rat (work the cheapest).

babs 09-12-2012 05:56 AM

"And, as previously announced, American has negotiated the early return of the ATRs. This fleet is old, and there are very high maintenance and leasing costs associated with these aircraft. This action will result in the closure of the Miami (MIA) Executive pilot and flight attendant domiciles on Nov. 15. However, all Executive pilots and flight attendants will be able to use their seniority to bid for positions at American Eagle – including positions at MIA. We do not foresee any furloughs as a result of this displacement. We do anticipate that American Eagle will be providing more regional jet flying out of MIA to replace some of the discontinued ATR flying. Additionally, all MIA and Key West Executive employees will become American Eagle employees as of Jan. 1, 2013."

Do we have Key West Executive employees or was that supposed to be San Juan?


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