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200Driver 10-02-2012 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Take Priority (Post 1270354)
After 10,000 hrs I started once a month entries, then last year after 16K my last entry reads way too much.......no more needed.

WOW! Neil Armstrong sign your logbook as well? I bet Patty Wagstaff is a personal friend? I just broke 100 hours! You must have a few pointers for Chuck Yeagar.

IFly86N 10-02-2012 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by bcrosier (Post 1270349)
Many will definitely want jet broken out - I would keep a column for that.

Why? If it burns Jet A, who should care if you "break down" what (type of engine) you have flown.

Any self-respecting recruiter/HR/CP should readily know the difference between the engine types.

For example, I can put this on my resume, in simple terms:

BE9L, BE20, B721/2, B732/3/4/8, B752, B763/ER.

IMHO, there is no difference between all of these types, be it turboprop, turbojet, or turbofan.

The Dominican 10-02-2012 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Take Priority (Post 1270354)
After 10,000 hrs I started once a month entries, then last year after 16K my last entry reads way too much.......no more needed.

It is all fine and dandy while you have a job, but if you find yourself in furlough fodder territory, you will regret not having had due diligence, the guys reviewing you logbooks won't be impressed by your total time, rather they will be disappointed at your poor record keeping, that opens up questions about what else you tend to be lazy about:rolleyes:

BlueMoon 10-02-2012 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by IFly86N (Post 1270369)
Why? If it burns Jet A, who should care if you "break down" what (type of engine) you have flown.

Any self-respecting recruiter/HR/CP should readily know the difference between the engine types.

For example, I can put this on my resume, in simple terms:

BE9L, BE20, B721/2, B732/3/4/8, B752, B763/ER.

IMHO, there is no difference between all of these types, be it turboprop, turbojet, or turbofan.

Some apps might want it broken down. I don't see why you need a separate column though. Most apps will just ask for time by aircraft type anyway.

IFly86N 10-02-2012 08:09 PM

Thank you for supporting my point.

bcrosier 10-02-2012 08:18 PM

Fair enough, but I've filled out a number of apps that wanted jet vs. turboprop vs. recip.

The actual correct answer to this question is "Electronic Logbook" which easily permits the user to parse the data however any given app wants it (and we all know that every app wants things differently).

That said, I would say there is a significant difference between the flight characteristics of a jet vs. a turboprop; which is why I suspect the apps I've filled out are interested in the breakdown.

FlyerJosh 10-02-2012 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by IFly86N (Post 1270369)
Why? If it burns Jet A, who should care if you "break down" what (type of engine) you have flown.

Any self-respecting recruiter/HR/CP should readily know the difference between the engine types.

For example, I can put this on my resume, in simple terms:

BE9L, BE20, B721/2, B732/3/4/8, B752, B763/ER.

IMHO, there is no difference between all of these types, be it turboprop, turbojet, or turbofan.

I disagree. A resume that has for example GV and BE350 listed on it with 4500 turbine doesn't tell me much.

There's a significant difference between a pilot with 4300 in GV and 200 in BE350 vs one with 4300 in a 350 and 200 in a GV. Not all kerosene burners are created equal.

IFly86N 10-02-2012 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by bcrosier (Post 1270408)
Fair enough, but I've filled out a number of apps that wanted jet vs. turboprop vs. recip.

...

That said, I would say there is a significant difference between the flight characteristics of a jet vs. a turboprop; which is why I suspect the apps I've filled out are interested in the breakdown.

I understand your point. No offense meant. I guess I just can't wrap my head around the fact that these people seem to think to flying a turboprop at flight levels equal to an average CRJ/ERJ is out of the question.

Personally, flying a BE20/BE30 that high takes a lot of skill that most CRJ/ERJ pilots (might) take for granted.

I guess by grief with these "hiring" types is that they don't understand this.

But if the "hiring" people want to know this level of detail, then fine. I will spend the next 40 hours compiling what is turboprop, turbojet and turbofan.

Pointless? Yes. Required? Depends.

IFly86N 10-02-2012 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by FlyerJosh (Post 1270411)
....Not all kerosene burners are created equal.

Granted. And sad Chief Pilots would feel that way.

flyingreasemnky 10-03-2012 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 1270266)
I went to Kinko's, they printed out front and back on thicker paper for $70. You can find a binder for much cheaper

I printed it for $18 at Fedex Kinko's and have gotten compliments on it at every interview I've had.


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