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PilotMan 10-16-2012 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by flyvne (Post 1277317)
I was there a few hours after the incident and was 100 feet away from the accident site. A ramper said he was filling the aft pot water of a 700. The dude left the truck in reverse and it pinned him...or crushed him between the plane and the truck. The ramper said he crushed his head. He said there was blood everywhere. What I saw was a 700 with the aft pot water panel open, a water truck next to it, police cars surrounding the site, and police tape enclosing the accident site while investigators where poking around.

This is exactly what I was told as well. Thirty year-old father of 3.

teddyballgame 10-16-2012 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1277599)
Actually there was a young woman ramper that was gonna rat them out. They didn't find her body for 2 yrs til someone plea bargained and spilled the beans.


The young lady's body was found in the trunk of a car parked at an auto repair shop next to a popular airport employee watering hole.

As I recall, she had gone on a food run for her ramp crew, and never returned. The body was discovered the following morning.

Shortly thereafter, NW dramatically drew down their BOS operation, with US taking over their FRA flight and AA being awarded their CDG flight. The rumor at the time was that the airline was trying to eradicate the alleged criminal element among the BOS ramp workers.

That was 20 years ago, in September, 1992.

frankwasright 10-16-2012 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1277268)
You guys are funny. Delta wouldn't hire people like this. They do a background check on everyone they hire. They couldn't get an airport badge either.

Wrong :
The U.S. Transportation Security Administration insisted that Richmond International Airport issue its highest-level security clearance to a TSA security officer with a felony conviction for robbery.

The current employee was 17 years old when he committed the crime and 18 when convicted. The TSA said such juvenile adjudications do not bar people from employment.
The airport would not identify the TSA employee nor reveal his age. The employee did not divulge on his application—though a records check last fall did—that he had been found guilty of robbery within the past 10 years.
The federal agency’s demand that RIC issue the “security identification display area” badge came despite the fact that Richmond International’s TSA-approved security program prohibits issuing security badges to people convicted of any disqualifying crimes.
“It is unconscionable . . . that a 17year-old person, who committed and was found guilty of a terrible crime, would be hired and works the front line of airport security,“ said Jon Mathiasen, RIC’s president and CEO, in a letter to the TSA on Jan. 18. . . .
The Transportation Security Administration threatened the airport with unspecified consequences, Mathiasen said, unless RIC agreed to issue the badge to the employee.
Faced with the TSA’s demands “and against its own prudent judgment,“ the Capital Region Airport Commission, which owns and operates RIC, issued the access credentials to the federal employee late last year. . . .
Last fall, the Capital Region Airport Commission did a fingerprint and criminal history records check on the TSA employee who was seeking an upgraded security badge. “Security identification display area” badges allow their holders unescorted access to secured areas, including airliner parking and luggage holding areas.
Based on its security program, RIC denied the request. The TSA, however, said the airport had to issue the credentials because the employee met the federal agency’s hiring standards.

RhinoPherret 10-16-2012 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1277288)
Flight crews that are afraid of rampers, tsa etc in LGA don't get out often enough. I've seen crew afraid to leave their rooms because they didn't like all the people!

But they felt right at home in the hollers of Tennessee. THAT's where I'm more frightened of the "natives"!

Nice to see you have made your personal biases made.
And you condemn others for their biases and feelings??? :rolleyes:

Justdoinmyjob 10-16-2012 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1277268)
You guys are funny. Delta wouldn't hire people like this. They do a background check on everyone they hire. They couldn't get an airport badge either.


Originally Posted by frankwasright (Post 1277746)
Wrong :
The U.S. Transportation Security Administration insisted that Richmond International Airport issue its highest-level security clearance to a TSA security officer with a felony conviction for robbery.

The current employee was 17 years old when he committed the crime and 18 when convicted. The TSA said such juvenile adjudications do not bar people from employment.
The airport would not identify the TSA employee nor reveal his age. The employee did not divulge on his application—though a records check last fall did—that he had been found guilty of robbery within the past 10 years.
The federal agency’s demand that RIC issue the “security identification display area” badge came despite the fact that Richmond International’s TSA-approved security program prohibits issuing security badges to people convicted of any disqualifying crimes.
“It is unconscionable . . . that a 17year-old person, who committed and was found guilty of a terrible crime, would be hired and works the front line of airport security,“ said Jon Mathiasen, RIC’s president and CEO, in a letter to the TSA on Jan. 18. . . .
The Transportation Security Administration threatened the airport with unspecified consequences, Mathiasen said, unless RIC agreed to issue the badge to the employee.
Faced with the TSA’s demands “and against its own prudent judgment,“ the Capital Region Airport Commission, which owns and operates RIC, issued the access credentials to the federal employee late last year. . . .
Last fall, the Capital Region Airport Commission did a fingerprint and criminal history records check on the TSA employee who was seeking an upgraded security badge. “Security identification display area” badges allow their holders unescorted access to secured areas, including airliner parking and luggage holding areas.
Based on its security program, RIC denied the request. The TSA, however, said the airport had to issue the credentials because the employee met the federal agency’s hiring standards.

CNI said airline. Your story is about the TSA. Apples and oranges my friend.

frankwasright 10-16-2012 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1277890)
CNI said airline. Your story is about the TSA. Apples and oranges my friend.

Maybe you need to brush up on reading comprehension.CNI said:

"They couldn't get an airport badge either."

Now pour yourself a nice,big,steamin' cup o'FAIL.

Bellanca 10-16-2012 01:25 PM

:( That sucks.

In my ramping days I saw two nasty accidents. The worst was seeing an out of control belt loader pin a guy against a wall which broke his neck and left him paralyzed.

As for murder, I didn't work at LGA, but there were a few unsavory characters working where I was at that made you wonder how they were able to get a badge lol.

I'm so glad those days are over, worst job ever.

DryMotorBoatin 10-16-2012 02:06 PM

JFK baggage handler setenced to 3 life sentences plus 35 years for international drug smuggling ring - NYPOST.com

Justdoinmyjob 10-17-2012 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by frankwasright (Post 1277904)
Maybe you need to brush up on reading comprehension.CNI said:

"They couldn't get an airport badge either."

Now pour yourself a nice,big,steamin' cup o'FAIL.


Sure, I'll get one for you. Engage brain in critical thinking mode. If an AIRLINE attempts to force an airport to issue a SIDA badge, what do you think the outcome would be? Now, if A FEDERAL AGENCY forces the same airport to do it, do you think the outcome would be the same? If you do, then I guess some zombies already ate your brain.:rolleyes:

Besides, Delta would never attempt to force an airport to issue a SIDA badge. It's much easier and cheaper to just fire the person. So, fail 2 on your part there, as well.:cool:


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