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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1279199)
Most anything from the DPA lately is laced with poor information, half truths and downright lies. Caplinger has fallen off his rocker in a bad bad way.
Desperation is a stinky cologne. |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1279201)
You have a retirement in addition to a 401k. For most ALPA members we only have a 401k.
The fact is, your dues are going down, while the majority of ALPA members are going to pay more in dues. This was a huge mistake and will hopefully be the end of ALPA. Good luck replacing ALPA with something that doesn't end up being basically the same. I've barked up that tree, and for now ALPA is the only viable solution. I'm all for hearing it if someone has a good plan, though. |
Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
(Post 1279140)
Congratulation ALPA pilots! The BOD approved a dues reduction for DAL pilots while increasing dues for regional pilots if you contribute to your 401K. Several MEC's stood united against this but most of the weak d1ck MEC's caved.
Make sure you check and see how your MEC voted. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1279205)
I have a defined contribution, which is money contributed by the company to my 401k on top of my 401k... that's about it. But it counts enough to where I've always paid dues on my 401k money I've contributed.
Good luck replacing ALPA with something that doesn't end up being basically the same. I've barked up that tree, and for now ALPA is the only viable solution. I'm all for hearing it if someone has a good plan, though. We will see how the BK turns out but for a BK, I bet they smell like roses at AA in the end. |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1279201)
You have a retirement in addition to a 401k. For most ALPA members we only have a 401k.
The fact is, your dues are going down, while the majority of ALPA members are going to pay more in dues. This was a huge mistake and will hopefully be the end of ALPA. |
Originally Posted by Nevets
(Post 1279247)
This is exactly what we have at XJT and we have NEVER had our 401k contributions added to our dies calculation.
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1279251)
Well I don't know why yours is different than 80kts and the Delta pilots. That's a good question why you didn't have them "taxed" while the Delta and United pilots did....
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1279257)
Agreed.... that is not good. The regionals already cost ALPA more money than they take in. (a big reason why SureJet Pilots Association would never work)
As far as a Skywest Inc Pilots Association, I think it will do just fine and we will all find out soon enough.....:D |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1279265)
That's not what I meant. I wondered why your 401k dues were "taxed" with just a defined contribution plan, while the XJT pilots were not and they have a defined contribution plan.
As far as a Skywest Inc Pilots Association, I think it will do just fine and we will all find out soon enough.....:D I highly suggest surejet. That name was fine tuned by a well oiled corporate machine for consumer confidence. :D It is quite intriguing about the XJT pilots having the same retirement plan as DL types and not having to pay dues on it. This calls for some emails to be sent... |
80kts, the reason is simple: their DC plan is really just a 401k with no requirement for the pilot to contribute to get the company contribution. In other words, their DC is just a part of their 401k. It's all a single plan. We had the same thing at AirTran (before SWA raped us of our DC plan, but I digress).
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