Originally Posted by dc10guy (Post 1305001)

I think the furloughed 2001 delta/NWA guys and gals might have a long memory also.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1304928)

Of course they did!! Why in the world would Delta provide financing to Pinnacle that in turn would support their competitors lift?!!!!!? If you ran a business, would you loan money to someone who in turn would use it to provide services for one of your competitors? I highly doubt you would.

Originally Posted by meesq (Post 1305008)

Selective memory, indeed. Tell me which pilot group voted on a contract which directly resulted in their furlough?
I don't have intimate knowledge of the events but from other posters, they allowed it themselves with their own contract at the time.
Noone to blame but themselves. But again, responsiblity seems to be elusive for DAL pilots.

Originally Posted by meesq (Post 1305008)

Selective memory, indeed. Tell me which pilot group voted on a contract which directly resulted in their furlough?
I don't have intimate knowledge of the events but from other posters, they allowed it themselves with their own contract at the time.
Noone to blame but themselves. But again, responsiblity seems to be elusive for DAL pilots.

Originally Posted by dc10guy (Post 1305013)

I have knowledge because I was furloughed and watch regionals grow. You will get no sympathy from me. I want legacies to grow. The same people that took the jobs while others were being furloughed might be furloughed themselves.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1305016)

Really? If that's the case then you have no grounds for blaming Delta pilots for what happened to Comair or Pinnacle. Stones in glass houses. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by meesq (Post 1305021)

Who asked for your sympathy? I'm just looking for someone, any DAL pilot to take responsibility for effect of their vote. Nothing less, nothing more. Of course it's primarily management's fault. But throwing your arms up in the air and say, whoa, I didn't do anything which had any effect on this mess, is disingenuous. You've come the closest so far.

Originally Posted by meesq (Post 1304987)

Bankruptcy creates those rates, management closed Comair down, Pinnacle management is the root of all Pinnacle's problems .... I could add more.

Man up and be truthful about Delta pilots role in all of this mess; first with Comair, and now, apparently, with Pinnacle. All your posts show no responsiblity, whatsoever, for the current condition of the regionals. (And before you start the rant about the history of the regionals - I am specifically referring to current devolution of the DCI fleet.) You have accelerated the race to the bottom and exacerbated it's gravity.

And, I, for one, have a long memory. Someday the other show will drop, and it will be Delta pilots turn to take the fall. You can't keep brow-beating DCI pilot rates without it eventually having an effect on your own.

Originally Posted by meesq (Post 1305024)

What? So all those posts from pilots saying they "gave it away" (scope) way back in the day, were wrong?