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avi8tor4life 11-16-2006 08:35 PM

Second Time Around
 
I interviewed with Skywest a few months back. I didn't get the job and they told me to reapply in 6 months.
So far I've taken this time to keep studying the ATP written, build my hours instructing, study IFR procedures, memorize the crap out of my airplane and pretty much prepare for a redo.

Ok here's the question, what's the chances of getting a second interview and getting the job in march? I was told to email my resume back out a few weeks before my 6 months were up. Is there anyone who has had this happen and gotten a job the second time and what are so tips for try two. Skywest doesn't tell you anything so I don't even know what it was that they didn't like.

reelbigchair 11-16-2006 10:23 PM

Did you get sent home in the middle of the interview, or did you make it through the entire day?

rickair7777 11-17-2006 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by avi8tor4life (Post 81641)
I interviewed with Skywest a few months back. I didn't get the job and they told me to reapply in 6 months.
So far I've taken this time to keep studying the ATP written, build my hours instructing, study IFR procedures, memorize the crap out of my airplane and pretty much prepare for a redo.

Ok here's the question, what's the chances of getting a second interview and getting the job in march? I was told to email my resume back out a few weeks before my 6 months were up. Is there anyone who has had this happen and gotten a job the second time and what are so tips for try two. Skywest doesn't tell you anything so I don't even know what it was that they didn't like.

Unlike some carriers, they really mean it when they say they would like to see you again in 6 months. Historically, a lot of old-timers there had to interview 2-3 times to get hired back in the day.

This assumes that you didn't come off with an attitude, logbook issues, or criminal problems. If you were just weak on one or more areas, they will give you a another shot.

avi8tor4life 11-17-2006 08:07 PM

No I made it through the day. I felt good in the tech, CRM, and HR portion. The written I studied for but I didn't feel the greatest on and also the sim ride I did good with the flying but flew a perfect hold on the wrong side, after doing a perfect one on the correct side. I didn't catch that till I was debriefing him on it. But made it through the day and got a letter that said come back in 6. So I got 125 days to go.

skywalkerta 11-17-2006 08:18 PM

Why do you want to work for skywest so bad? All that BS studying you have to do for a $19 per hr job which in real life equates to about $6 per hr. Why don't you go work for CHQ or XJET. I don't understand the logic of some guys I've known that wants skywest so bad.

ghilis101 11-17-2006 08:24 PM

i agree, yea as long as youre with a good carrier with good upgrade times, go with what you can get. no point in waiting now, or at least get on with mesa and get some CRJ time before you get there, it will guarantee you your job at SKW when youre eligible to interview

Koolaidman 11-17-2006 09:37 PM

The logic is pretty simple...

Great company.

Yes first year pay sucks, but maybe you should look at the 2nd year pay. Don't forget the bonuses after the first year.

8 month upgrades on the prop, 1 year and 7 months was the last I heard on the jet.

PROBABLY going to get more flying in the next six months on top of what we unfortunately took from ASA.

Numerous domiciles in the west, northwest.

But really, why would anyone want to go there when they go sit in class for two months somewhere like eagle or horizon just to leave in six months when they realize they will be in the right seat for 5 years? Sitting right seat doesn't sound that bad when you compare it to instructing, but wait six months and realize that your upgrade time is still four years away as opposed to two and see how you feel???

reelbigchair 11-18-2006 12:28 AM

Even though they didn't ask you to leave, I can safely say based on what you said, that the reason you didn't get the job was your goof on the sim. I'm sure that there are examples of people failing other portions, but when I was at the training center and on my interview, the only reason people ever busted was sim. It's also possible you were borderline on everything, but my recommendation to you would be to go get some sim prep before you go up there. Fly the same approaches that you remember from the interview, have someone give you practice holds, etc. And definetily send your resume a bit early. I think the fact that you're trying again after 6 months will look very good to the people interviewing you, shows you want to be here. Good luck, see you on the line.

ghilis101 11-18-2006 05:07 AM

my point is you should go to eagle and get some experience instead of just sitting around waiting 6 months to reapply. if you come back to the skywest interview already with some 121 time and possibly some rj time, it will boost your chances infinitely. skywest really heavily favors guys who come from other regionals. if you really want to make sure you get this job, go to eagle, suffer through the training whatever, and at least 6 months from now you can leave them and have a SURE thing at skywest.

cyrcadian 11-18-2006 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by skywalkerta (Post 82025)
Why do you want to work for skywest so bad? All that BS studying you have to do for a $19 per hr job which in real life equates to about $6 per hr. Why don't you go work for CHQ or XJET. I don't understand the logic of some guys I've known that wants skywest so bad.


What, don't you want to fly a 90 seat jet for 50 seat rates!

I might consider Skywest if I lived west of the Mississippi, but that is it. I think people go for the easy hire not necessarily the best place to work. Just my opinion.

reelbigchair 11-18-2006 11:02 AM

Are you implying that SkyWest is the easy job to get? Clearly you've never interviewed there. They turn away more people than just about any other regional.

cyrcadian 11-18-2006 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 82207)
Are you implying that SkyWest is the easy job to get? Clearly you've never interviewed there. They turn away more people than just about any other regional.

Not implying that the interview is necessarily easy at SkyWest. I would respect an interview no matter where it was. It just seems from reading posts on here that people go for the airline that is "hiring like crazy", low minimums, or the quick upgrade.

I went to an airline that was "hiring like crazy" and they stopped hiring the next month for over a year.

I didn't belong anywhere near an RJ flight deck at 600/100.

I've seen the actions of quick upgrade captains and it scares me. Not saying all quick upgrade guys are awful, so relax people. And I don't want to be a right seat jockey for ever. I just think it takes experience and wisdom to sit in the left seat and some people are far from possesing it.

If aviator4life really wants a job with SkyWest for some specific reason more power to him. But for my experience it seems there are better options out there if you have been turned down once.

ghilis101 11-18-2006 01:04 PM

i interviewed at eagle and skywest within 1 week of each other. both interviews were almost identical in toughness. the only differences are:

if youre a cfi or reciprocating twin pilot, you will fly better in the SKW sim (it was hell for me being a glass cockpit guy)

if you have prior turbine, 121, or glass time, you will fly better in the AE sim (ATR has a glass ADI and HSI)

there, that settles that debate.

but you cant just sit around waiting for an interview

rickair7777 11-18-2006 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by cyrcadian (Post 82095)
What, don't you want to fly a 90 seat jet for 50 seat rates!

I might consider Skywest if I lived west of the Mississippi, but that is it. I think people go for the easy hire not necessarily the best place to work. Just my opinion.

Most of the people at SKW are very lifestyle oriented and are there for the geography, that's certainly the case for me. The other good (or bad) things about SKW are secondary considerations.

Western jet regional choices: SKW, Eagle, Horizon, Mesa.

Horizon is great if you're up there, but for cali types the commute would be rough...what would you do? Mesa? Hey, they're alpa, that's a plus!

Anybody who suggests commuting from the west to the east coast for a "good" (alpa) regional is smoking something they shouldn't be.

Also, SKW is not an easy interview. It is currently easy to GET an interview due to growth, but you still have to perform...

rickair7777 11-18-2006 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by cyrcadian (Post 82212)
I didn't belong anywhere near an RJ flight deck at 600/100.
.

SKW hires 1000/100 min, and those go to the brasilia.

New hires going to the jet usually have turbine 121, military, or corporate time, and the few CFI's are all 1500+ hours.

cyrcadian 11-18-2006 01:46 PM

Oy! I never said easy interview.

avi8tor4life 11-18-2006 08:42 PM

reelbigchair,
I figured that the sim was it. I flew the perfect hold.... just on the wrong side. other than that the sim felt good. I've got access to a sim here at my school for no cost and i've been working my tail off in that. I'm gonna go get the approach charts for the approach. I can't remember what it was but I'm just gonna get all the ils's for Skywest airports and see what I can do. I also want to study jepps. Anyone know anything to help study those? Our school carries NOS and there isn't a jepp in the place.

I really want skywest cause of atmosphere and geography. I was really impressed when I went out there. Wouldn't mind a Bro out of San Diego or a RJ out of Denver. Both would rock.

And, to those who care, I'm not just sitting waiting for 6 months. I know the interview. I was there. I can prep a ton better. and I'm instructing like a mother and the best way to remember something is to teach it so yeah.

Anyway chair, I'll see you on the line. One of my buddies dennis is out there. He's a RJ F/O out of SLC.

FL410 11-18-2006 09:13 PM

I am in the same boat as you are in. I did go to a group interview and they were glad that I went there and they seemed excited about my situation. They feel that if we can wait the 6 months hen the person really wants to work for skywest. Get as much time and study as much as you can. they want 1700 total and over 500 multi for the CRJ, from what they told me. They want me but they want to wait for a bro class/hiring to start up more.
If you need some jepps PM me and and I can find a way to get them to you. Study and study then sudy more. That is want I am doing, this time I am going to be very prepared.

reelbigchair 11-18-2006 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by avi8tor4life (Post 82371)
reelbigchair,
I figured that the sim was it. I flew the perfect hold.... just on the wrong side. other than that the sim felt good. I've got access to a sim here at my school for no cost and i've been working my tail off in that. I'm gonna go get the approach charts for the approach. I can't remember what it was but I'm just gonna get all the ils's for Skywest airports and see what I can do. I also want to study jepps. Anyone know anything to help study those? Our school carries NOS and there isn't a jepp in the place.

I really want skywest cause of atmosphere and geography. I was really impressed when I went out there. Wouldn't mind a Bro out of San Diego or a RJ out of Denver. Both would rock.

And, to those who care, I'm not just sitting waiting for 6 months. I know the interview. I was there. I can prep a ton better. and I'm instructing like a mother and the best way to remember something is to teach it so yeah.

Anyway chair, I'll see you on the line. One of my buddies dennis is out there. He's a RJ F/O out of SLC.

Hey like I said before, I'm sure you'll do just fine the second time around, it's a tough interview, but nothing most CFI's can't accomplish if they are ready. you're proving you really want to be there, and you're right, the atmosphere is like nothing you've been apart of in this industry. Feel free to message me if you have any questions about the interview or skywest. And remember, send your resume in earlier than the six months, I really don't think it'll be frowned opon.


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