But who will file that grievance? DALPA won't be allowed to because it isn't their contract, and PALPA won't because its their guys getting the benefit of the grievance in the first place. Unless some junior pilots do it as a coup of sorts. That would actually be fun to watch.

 

There is no grievance that can be filed. This is outside the scope of the union- but it can be dealt with in PCL ALPA or directly with Dixon.

 

What is this, Doctor Pilot Central?

Why don't you go back to your Bonanza and leave this airline talk to the big boys.

 

Sorry, but this is just wishful thinking on your part and nothing more. A degree has always been required for top tier jobs with very few exceptions.

 

I can't believe pilots want to be paid like engineers, lawyers, and doctors but argue about having education beyond a high school diploma.

Sure, there are exceptions out there in the workforce where a specialized skill commands a high salary, but piloting is a career that employs tens of thousands across the country. Want to get paid like a successful professional? Be educated like one. Want to slack off and be educated like someone who works at Burger King? Plan to be paid like one.


Having a college degree says a lot about the person, their experiences, their commitment, their work ethic, and their ability to achieve. It is a very valuable credential to have.

 

Isn't Dr. Pilot Central mostly an obituary site?

 

Here's my perspective; What a degree says can be highly variable about a person's commitment, work ethic, and ability to achieve.

How much did someone earn or pay for their own education? Or did a parent or relative foot all or most of their bills? I've seen that plenty.

How rigorous was the course work? How much did the person develop their "whole" self, or push their horizons? What if they just barely squeaked by, but can still check the degree box? What about folks that have never had a job before or during college but still have that degree?

My point is that having a four year degree may not be directly indicative of commitment, work ethic, etc.

 

Wait, why are you so mad about this?
According to you Pinnacle will be shut down before you hire, so what's the problem?
I could swear you spent a large number of posts belittling anyone that thought different?

 

Of course there will be a broad range for both those who have a degree and those who do not. But the average person with a degree is going to excel in those categories compared with the average person who does not.

An airline sifting through thousands of applications doesn't know you on a personal individual basis. They need to need to set standards to select those who they think will do well in an interview. Then they interview based on these standards and hope to select those who will do well as employees.

At the end of the interview, when they make the decision to offer you employment that could last 30-40 years, they don't know you. They have a tiny sample of what you're like, combined with a set of credentials. They know that, on average, people who have degrees have stronger drive, work ethic, maturity, commitment, etc... and they use this to help create their understanding of who you are when deciding if you're the right candidate for them.

 

Please show me where I stated that 9E will be shut down before DL hires.