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Express pilot 12-01-2006 06:21 PM

Eric you said that perfect. I think you have been waiting to get a chance to lash out a ***** slap at a CAL scab. Your tired of taxing to slow and flying with some gumpy bastard. Not saying that he is, but he sure dosen't know what the hell is going on.

CO777Driver 12-01-2006 08:16 PM

SCAB. Noun. Someone who works..................
 

Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 87458)
Eric you said that perfect. I think you have been waiting to get a chance to lash out a ***** slap at a CAL scab. Your tired of taxing to slow and flying with some gumpy bastard. Not saying that he is, but he sure dosen't know what the hell is going on.

First off, I am not a scab; nor, do I support scabs.
SCAB-(NOUN)
1. Someone who works (or provides workers) during a strike

I think that the def sums this situation up. From what I have read, there was no strike, right? Therefore, GoJet pilots are not scabs. Some of you are saying that GoJets is lowering the bar. I don't know what kind of contract they have; but, their pay scale is pretty damn close to the other regionals. On this forum, the term "SCAB" is used to freely. Let's use the term "SCAB" when it is appropriate.

QUOTE=Express pilot;87458]Eric you said that perfect. I think you have been waiting to get a chance to lash out a ***** slap at a CAL scab.

Express pilot, grow up!!!!!!!! I am no SCAB. I would love to see you come try and B!tch slap me.

CO777Driver

rickair7777 12-02-2006 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by CO777Driver (Post 87484)
First off, I am not a scab; nor, do I support scabs.
SCAB-(NOUN)
1. Someone who works (or provides workers) during a strike

I think that the def sums this situation up. From what I have read, there was no strike, right? Therefore, GoJet pilots are not scabs. Some of you are saying that GoJets is lowering the bar. I don't know what kind of contract they have; but, their pay scale is pretty damn close to the other regionals. On this forum, the term "SCAB" is used to freely. Let's use the term "SCAB" when it is appropriate.

Go-jets is an alter-ego, not a scab operation. But they are just as bad in spirit, if not the letter of the law. You may have experienced scabs in your career at CAL, but two regional pilot groups have recently watched their jobs and airplanes get taken away by management and given to a group of their peers (often from their own pilot group) who were willing to sell their fellow pilots down the river...

The payscale may not look so bad, but the weak workrules allow the company to save a bundle, the gojetters get fast upgrades, and TSA pilots lose longevity when they get jobs elswhere...

pilotara 12-02-2006 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by Spongebob (Post 86736)
Pilotara,

You might want to dial it back a little...how many ALPA members are in your guard unit?

Spongebob

Few of them..and guess what...they have nothing good to say....TWA....AMERICAN guys...and some United....and don't tell me that if you are not ALPA you gonna have a bad time in ANG...

Spanky189 12-03-2006 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 87671)
Go-jets is an alter-ego, not a scab operation. But they are just as bad in spirit, if not the letter of the law. You may have experienced scabs in your career at CAL, but two regional pilot groups have recently watched their jobs and airplanes get taken away by management and given to a group of their peers (often from their own pilot group) who were willing to sell their fellow pilots down the river...

The payscale may not look so bad, but the weak workrules allow the company to save a bundle, the gojetters get fast upgrades, and TSA pilots lose longevity when they get jobs elswhere...

And this differs from the Us Air guys screwing the AW guys...How? AW saved US Air yet US Air guys want DOH for the pilot list... Talk about selling fellow pilots down the river!

aussieflyboy 12-04-2006 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by magnum_man (Post 86994)
Expressjet is one dollar an hour more first year but same 2nd year and every year thereafter.

Republic is for the ninety seat jet which we can't operate due to United scope...Seventy to Seventy they are one dollar an hour less.

Comair...well we all know what is going to happen to them so disregard.

ASA....well we see what is happening to them so disregard.

That leaves Eagle and Horizon....wow two whole airlines are better, but the rest are less.

If I went to work for anyone else, I would be lowering the bar.

Oh and one last thing...we have a TA that is better than our current pay..putting us above everyone but Eagle and Horizon.

If you would have only voted YES.


You have to compare like against like.

Yes XJT captains only make a dollar an hour more in the first year, but we only fly 50 seat jets, completely different and a stupid comparison.

Express pilot 12-04-2006 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by CO777Driver (Post 87484)
First off, I am not a scab; nor, do I support scabs.
SCAB-(NOUN)
1. Someone who works (or provides workers) during a strike

I think that the def sums this situation up. From what I have read, there was no strike, right? Therefore, GoJet pilots are not scabs. Some of you are saying that GoJets is lowering the bar. I don't know what kind of contract they have; but, their pay scale is pretty damn close to the other regionals. On this forum, the term "SCAB" is used to freely. Let's use the term "SCAB" when it is appropriate.

QUOTE=Express pilot;87458]Eric you said that perfect. I think you have been waiting to get a chance to lash out a ***** slap at a CAL scab.

Express pilot, grow up!!!!!!!! I am no SCAB. I would love to see you come try and B!tch slap me.

CO777Driver

If you read the last thing I wrote, it says,"Not saying that he is, but he sure dosen't know what the hell is going on. I know what a scab is. It is exactly what you defined. I never said GoJets are scabs, but they are something that is in that same category. Just like Eric told you. Lets say CAL management came and said we want to take a pay cut from ya'll. The CAL pilots put there foot down and say NO. Well then CAL management says fine and starts up this new airline on the side and all the CAL pilots watch as these pricks line up to fly for this new airline.

You also say that GoJets makes the same as all the other regionals. They fly 70 seats to what I fly a 50 seat for. Plus read with your glasses on about what I wrote above and what Eric wrote you. Think about that and make your judgement on GoJets. Yes they are not scabs by the dictionary, but what are they.

Just pick up the taxi speed and know a little about something before you start jumping on the regional board and saying ****. I don't get on the major board and start telling you how some Major airline is run or defend some airline that I know nothing about.

I'm sure you'll come back and let out a big ................. It should give you something to do. Whatever you write back I'm done with this whole thing about BLOWJETS.

crjav8er 12-04-2006 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by magnum_man (Post 86994)
Expressjet is one dollar an hour more first year but same 2nd year and every year thereafter.

Republic is for the ninety seat jet which we can't operate due to United scope...Seventy to Seventy they are one dollar an hour less.

Comair...well we all know what is going to happen to them so disregard.

ASA....well we see what is happening to them so disregard.

That leaves Eagle and Horizon....wow two whole airlines are better, but the rest are less.

If I went to work for anyone else, I would be lowering the bar.

Oh and one last thing...we have a TA that is better than our current pay..putting us above everyone but Eagle and Horizon.

If you would have only voted YES.

So tell me then how will your new TA "raise the bar?" What is your 401(k) match? How about work rules? Vacation? Pay is important but it is just one aspect of "the bar."

Baradium 12-29-2006 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by magnum_man (Post 86780)
Message for JiffyLube: Not going to Cut the Crap.....This needs to be pulled by the moderators like they did on FlightINfo

They will get tired of the GoJet bashing and will start deleting these threads as soon as they pop up.

Did I read this right that your goal is to force the moderators to ban the topic?

ghilis101 12-29-2006 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by pilotara (Post 87805)
Few of them..and guess what...they have nothing good to say....TWA....AMERICAN guys...and some United....and don't tell me that if you are not ALPA you gonna have a bad time in ANG...

im not sure what that means but in my reserve unit all the pilots are pro-alpa


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