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172 Captain 03-08-2013 12:16 PM

Eagle increases signing bonus to $10k
 
...........Yup

Dejavu 03-08-2013 12:18 PM

? Source ?

Ultralight 03-08-2013 12:24 PM

Career website still says $5,000.

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172 Captain 03-08-2013 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Dejavu (Post 1367786)
? Source ?

As of right now you can consider this a rumor until it becomes official.
Solid source says it's already been offered.

Until then

Carry on, Nothing to see here

flysooner9 03-08-2013 12:33 PM

i know this has been tossed around for a while now but i'll wait for an announcement.

Ftrooppilot 03-08-2013 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1367800)
i know this has been tossed around for a while now but i'll wait for an announcement.

If true ? The bidding war to lure young FOs away from other regionals has started.

flysooner9 03-08-2013 12:43 PM

think it all ready had with republic and ealge both offering 5k

RJ Pilot 03-08-2013 12:46 PM

This is a slap in the face to all current Eagle pilots.

flysooner9 03-08-2013 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1367812)
This is a slap in the face to all current Eagle pilots.

Yes but honestly id rather see us get new hires so that people can flow and upgrade. No new hires and this place stays stagnant.

johnso29 03-08-2013 12:51 PM

Regionals are hosed from a staffing standpoint.

bretthull 03-08-2013 12:56 PM

If this is true Im going to quit and come back to get the pay raise.

Ultralight 03-08-2013 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1367818)
Regionals are hosed from a staffing standpoint.

Yes. I good friend of mine was trying desperately to get the financing on the zero to hero ATP wonder package, but couldn't get approved. He had a respectable credit score too.

Not only are people getting turned off by this industry, the ones that do want to become pilots are facing stiff headwinds in the way of tighter lending practices, high av-gas prices, and now they have to find a way to build 1,500 hours before they can even be considered for the worst regional.

At least Republic keeps its colony of workers on a ball and chain for 24 months.

squawkoff 03-08-2013 01:06 PM

3 interviewed on March the 6th. 2 offerd with one of those maybe needing the CRJ course.

feltf4 03-08-2013 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1367812)
This is a slap in the face to all current Eagle pilots.

Finally I can split it with you! 50/50 buddy!

680crewchief 03-08-2013 01:28 PM

This is awesome. The Regional business model is about to finally get what it deserves...new hires saying 'f off'!

mojo6911 03-08-2013 01:28 PM

If this is true, I will be applying.

embraer 03-08-2013 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by mojo6911 (Post 1367843)
If this is true, I will be applying.

Let me know if you want some help. :)

squawkoff 03-08-2013 01:51 PM

Personally I don't think a raise in the bonus will make much of a difference. Maybe a little. I just don't think there are that many qualified pilots out there. I bet there are a bunch with a couple hundred hours that would love to come to the regionals but now they can't afford to get their 1500 hours. CFI used to be the main road to the regionals but now there are not many students to instruct. Just my 2 cents.

flysooner9 03-08-2013 02:06 PM

i think the only true way Eagle will attract new hires is to show them proof of a good upgrade time and career progression. A fleet plan would be good for starters.

mojo6911 03-08-2013 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 1367858)
Personally I don't think a raise in the bonus will make much of a difference. Maybe a little. I just don't think there are that many qualified pilots out there. I bet there are a bunch with a couple hundred hours that would love to come to the regionals but now they can't afford to get their 1500 hours. CFI used to be the main road to the regionals but now there are not many students to instruct. Just my 2 cents.

For me, I have 3300 hours and only 10 hours of jet time and no type. I need the experience but didn't want to take such a huge pay cut. The 10k would help a lot, in that regard.

Worse case scenario, I get my PIC type, jet time, and 10k and get furloughed in a few months. Best case scenario, I get hired before a big wave and stay in the 121 world.

PICsf340 03-08-2013 02:17 PM

What base can a new hire expect? I have a great payin job, but dont like what i am doing. I have been "trapped by the money". I would go if i could get mia or dfw. Is that a possibility?

RyanP 03-08-2013 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by PICsf340 (Post 1367876)
What base can a new hire expect? I have a great payin job, but dont like what i am doing. I have been "trapped by the money". I would go if i could get mia or dfw. Is that a possibility?

Yes.. as long as you get Embraer and not CRJ.

Cruz5350 03-08-2013 03:21 PM

Eagle increases signing bonus to $10k
 
It's a good way to get pilots to leave from other airlines like Lakes or Silver.

Chilly Bear 03-08-2013 03:25 PM

I'm going to hold out for a free Leprechaun.

pa28dakota 03-08-2013 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1367868)
i think the only true way Eagle will attract new hires is to show them proof of a good upgrade time and career progression. A fleet plan would be good for starters.

Agreed...without a fleet plan no bonus is really enough to have me look at Eagle unless I lose my current job and base with all the uncertainty about the regionals. Hey flysooner...any more rumors about the fate of the NYC base. Had your NYC chief on the JS a month ago and he hinted at bad news for the NY base coming. The USAir merger may have changed things though.

flysooner9 03-08-2013 03:29 PM

I don't see the NY base going anywhere anytime soon. Latest word on the street is we're not going to be parking EMB's nearly as fast as planned before. Could see a lot of upgrades happening soon because of this.

Also the 10k bonus appears to be NOT true... For now.

BPWI 03-08-2013 04:24 PM

With taxes the way they are, your looking at close to 5k after Uncle Sam takes his portion anyway. 10k is momentary. Im looking forward to watching what new carrot they have to dangle in the coming months.

mojo6911 03-08-2013 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by BPWI (Post 1367958)
With taxes the way they are, your looking at close to 5k after Uncle Sam takes his portion anyway. 10k is momentary. Im looking forward to watching what new carrot they have to dangle in the coming months.

Not really. More will be withheld initially, but your tax burden will be lower at the end of the year.

KSCessnaDriver 03-08-2013 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 1367858)
Personally I don't think a raise in the bonus will make much of a difference. Maybe a little. I just don't think there are that many qualified pilots out there. I bet there are a bunch with a couple hundred hours that would love to come to the regionals but now they can't afford to get their 1500 hours. CFI used to be the main road to the regionals but now there are not many students to instruct. Just my 2 cents.

I've got a ATP multi, but with very low airplane hours. There are qualified people, per the new regulation, but they won't look at some of us for other flight time reasons.

CoATP 03-08-2013 04:44 PM

Doesn't Eagle have a union? Can't that union say "no bonus thank you, attract new hires with the wage package you negotitated or negotiate a new one"

JetRage 03-08-2013 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by 680crewchief (Post 1367842)
This is awesome. The Regional business model is about to finally get what it deserves...new hires saying 'f off'!

When RAH offered me the job with the 24 month ball and chain I asked "why"? They said all the regional airlines would have the same policy before long.

As I'm walking out the door I'm thinking "until that happens...have fun being here by yourself".

Red Forman 03-08-2013 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by CoATP (Post 1367977)
Doesn't Eagle have a union? Can't that union say "no bonus thank you, attract new hires with the wage package you negotitated or negotiate a new one"

That's the problem, they won't, nor have they ever paid new hires worth a damn. You can thank the senior guys for that.

Red Forman 03-08-2013 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by JetRage (Post 1367985)
When RAH offered me the job with the 24 month ball and chain I asked "why"? They said all the regional airlines would have the same policy before long.

As I'm walking out the door I'm thinking "until that happens...have fun being here by yourself".

Yeah, if the regionals really want to attract qualified people they need to raise first year pay, offer signing bonuses, and drop the training contacts.

172 Captain 03-08-2013 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by CoATP (Post 1367977)
Doesn't Eagle have a union? Can't that union say "no bonus thank you, attract new hires with the wage package you negotitated or negotiate a new one"

Ha
Hahaha
Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Haha:rolleyes:

Sorry, couldn't help it

Lobaeux 03-08-2013 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 1367993)
Yeah, if the regionals really want to attract qualified people they need to raise first year pay, offer signing bonuses, and drop the training contacts.

I was under the impression AE didn't have a training contract, or is that just if you take the bonus? I wont be taking the bonus if I get hired.

That being said, a lot of the discussion here is making me a little leery.

Ultralight 03-08-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 1368007)
I was under the impression AE didn't have a training contract, or is that just if you take the bonus? I wont be taking the bonus if I get hired.

That being said, a lot of the discussion here is making me a little leery.

How about take the bonus, put it in a savings account then if you leave just give the pro-rated amount back. If you don't leave, or you get laid off you get to keep the beer vouchers.

Better than Republics, " we'll give you $5,000 to join us, but you have to pay us $20,000 if you want to leave, oh, and if we cancel a flight for whatever reason, we will pay you jack shiznit!"

Lobaeux 03-08-2013 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1368013)
How about take the bonus, put it in a savings account then if you leave just give the pro-rated amount back. If you don't leave, or you get laid off you get to keep the beer vouchers.

Better than Republics, " we'll give you $5,000 to join us, but you have to pay us $20,000 if you want to leave, oh, and if we cancel a flight for whatever reason, we will pay you jack shiznit!"

Ah, if it's pro-rated, that's a different story.

BoilerUP 03-08-2013 06:36 PM

Recruitment is one part of the equation...retention is the other.

Regional airlines are and will be behind the eight ball on the first, and interestingly rely on the second to keep labor costs low. That is, until you can't recruit enough to replace those who leave, then retention becomes more important...

Ultralight 03-08-2013 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 1368061)
Recruitment is one part of the equation...retention is the other.

Regional airlines are and will be behind the eight ball on the first, and interestingly rely on the second to keep labor costs low. That is, until you can't recruit enough to replace those who leave, then retention becomes more important...

I completely agree, and as most guys are broke at that point in their career a few thousand bucks could be the answer to all thieir problems. Even if they have to sign their life away for it.

Thing is, once they realize they have had their pants taken down and want to jump ship, they're stuck in the mud.

Kind of like the fat bald guy in the white van offering small children candy!

blaine 03-08-2013 08:08 PM

First year pay did go up, by $5,000 dollars!!!


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