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MaxRate 03-12-2013 01:22 PM

It is a done deal
 
American Wins Approval of Republic Regional-Service Deal - Bloomberg

RyanP 03-12-2013 01:34 PM

:rolleyes:

ALPA proves to be completely useless, yet again.

snippercr 03-12-2013 01:36 PM

High fives all around!

block30 03-12-2013 01:38 PM

So are those six aircraft being reinstated to Republic? I see the article references 47 vs 53 aircraft. Are those six aircraft just up for grabs by anyone? I know, lots of questions.

johnso29 03-12-2013 01:45 PM

They won't be able to staff them anyway. Just like F9, this will blow up in BB's face.

pa28dakota 03-12-2013 01:45 PM

The other 6 aircraft were Air Canada birds that Air Canada couldnt get ready in a good enough time frame for AMR. Those planes are from what I understand, off the table. Here's my flamebait prediction since RAH is buying them without help from a major....Chpt 11 within two years of getting a new contract (if that ever happens)...then whipsaw concessions...rinse...repeat!

TillerEnvy 03-12-2013 02:29 PM


They won't be able to staff them anyway. Just like F9, this will blow up in BB's face.
Lol...think it'll blow up as bad as Express Jet branded operation?

Rotor2prop 03-12-2013 02:34 PM

Well I guess Republic better get their butts in gear if they plan on even having a chance to staff half of the aircraft coming in.

TillerEnvy 03-12-2013 02:36 PM


The other 6 aircraft were Air Canada birds that Air Canada couldnt get ready in a good enough time frame for AMR. Those planes are from what I understand, off the table. Here's my flamebait prediction since RAH is buying them without help from a major....Chpt 11 within two years of getting a new contract (if that ever happens)...then whipsaw concessions...rinse...repeat!
You do realize we own a large portion of our aircraft already unlike most other regionals.

What 03-12-2013 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1370521)
You do realize we own a large portion of our aircraft already unlike most other regionals.

Hence why CH11 is a Limey scenario to grab a contract and help clean the balance sheet.

Magpuller 03-12-2013 04:11 PM

Was there ever any real doubt this was gonna happen....

johnso29 03-12-2013 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1370506)
Lol...think it'll blow up as bad as Express Jet branded operation?

Yup.......

TillerEnvy 03-12-2013 04:39 PM



Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1370506)
Lol...think it'll blow up as bad as Express Jet branded operation?

Yup.......
Still bitter about the CHQ deal way back in the day? Come on man...you've moved on to Delta AND you get to be a biased mod. Time to move on.

MunkyButtr 03-12-2013 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1370561)
Hence why CH11 is a Limey scenario to grab a contract and help clean the balance sheet.

Bk won't happen till you guys get the contract you all deserve. Then all of a sudden the company won't be able to afford it and poof, bankruptcy.

DoNotReset 03-12-2013 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Magpuller (Post 1370571)
Was there ever any real doubt this was gonna happen....

What a waste of money on ALPA's side. Glad to see such productive actions...

johnso29 03-12-2013 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1370589)
Still bitter about the CHQ deal way back in the day? Come on man...you've moved on to Delta AND you get to be a biased mod. Time to move on.

No, I'm not bitter about that. But I am tired of BB getting away with treating his pilot group like crap year after year. It's clear that he continues to use the RLA to avoid paying his pilot's a livable wage, and it's crap. The RAH pilots deserve better.

embraer 03-12-2013 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1370598)
No, I'm not bitter about that. But I am tired of BB getting away with treating his pilot group like crap year after year. It's clear that he continues to use the RLA to avoid paying his pilot's a livable wage, and it's crap. The RAH pilots deserve better.

+ a million.

80ktsClamp 03-12-2013 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1370589)
Still bitter about the CHQ deal way back in the day? Come on man...you've moved on to Delta AND you get to be a biased mod. Time to move on.

What does him being a moderator have to do with anything?

Saabs 03-12-2013 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1370591)
Bk won't happen till you guys get the contract you all deserve. Then all of a sudden the company won't be able to afford it and poof, bankruptcy.

Hmmm sounds familiar

zoooropa 03-12-2013 05:20 PM

They will not have a problem staffing the 47. Take a look at the Pinnacle RJ agreement with Bombardier, this one will mirror that structure (aka lease exchange/displacements).

MoarAlpha 03-12-2013 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1370506)
Lol...think it'll blow up as bad as Express Jet branded operation?

You think the EV AMR ops are bad or do you just hope and pray they are bad for your own companies sake?

showmethemoney 03-12-2013 06:06 PM

they'll just displace from DEN as the F9 ops wind down, staffing solved, move along

flyguy23 03-12-2013 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by showmethemoney (Post 1370673)
they'll just displace from DEN as the F9 ops wind down, staffing solved, move along


Yea, 23 crews will staff the 47 airplanes. You're right, problem solved :rolleyes:

Bolo 03-12-2013 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by showmethemoney (Post 1370673)
they'll just displace from DEN as the F9 ops wind down, staffing solved, move along

Nice post Freshman!

Noseeums 03-12-2013 07:33 PM

This is what will happen. The aircraft orders will come in. Republic will staff them. Crews will complain about how they're being abused and they're not staffed accordingly. Crews will swap stories about make-believe mass cancellations and chaos due to staffing issues. Republic will make money hand-over-fist. The end.

TillerEnvy 03-12-2013 11:04 PM



Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1370506)
Lol...think it'll blow up as bad as Express Jet branded operation?

You think the EV AMR ops are bad or do you just hope and pray they are bad for your own companies sake?
What are EV AMR ops? Seriously, I don't know. I want nothing bad for any company. We're all pawns in this game. I was responding to johnso's post regarding how bad our ops will go. It's obvious that the former XJT guy still has issues with RAH guys over CHQ getting CAL flying in Houston back in the day.

johnso29 03-13-2013 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1370803)
What are EV AMR ops? Seriously, I don't know. I want nothing bad for any company. We're all pawns in this game. I was responding to johnso's post regarding how bad our ops will go. It's obvious that the former XJT guy still has issues with RAH guys over CHQ getting CAL flying in Houston back in the day.

Nice to see you conveniently skipped over my response to you. :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1370598)
No, I'm not bitter about that. But I am tired of BB getting away with treating his pilot group like crap year after year. It's clear that he continues to use the RLA to avoid paying his pilot's a livable wage, and it's crap. The RAH pilots deserve better.


Ultralight 03-13-2013 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1370626)
Hmmm sounds familiar

Thats what I thought. It was nice while it lasted!

Red97Vette 03-13-2013 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 1370666)
You think the EV AMR ops are bad or do you just hope and pray they are bad for your own companies sake?

I think you are a little confused. Express Jet had its own "airline" called Express Jet for a little while until it collapsed (this was pre merger with ASA). The EV (ASA) American flying just recently started post merger (still operated by ASA).

The original poster in reference to the ExpressJet branded operation compared it to the probable failure to the massive growth RAH is attempting. All on the backs of over worked and underpaid pilots with the worst contract in the industry.

Yet for some reason pilots still choose to seek employment there....

Captain Tony 03-13-2013 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Red97Vette (Post 1370945)
Yet for some reason pilots still choose to seek employment there....

But the E-Jet is a REAL airplane! It's so big and shiny! It has ENGINES UNDER THE WINGS! :D

jsled 03-13-2013 07:19 AM

Eagle Pilots: Welcome to the Jungle.................

F2m185 03-13-2013 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1370953)
But the E-Jet is a REAL airplane! It's so big and shiny! It has ENGINES UNDER THE WINGS! :D

Go fly a c402 for a few years and get back to me on your above comment, thanks

SUX4U 03-13-2013 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1370953)
But the E-Jet is a REAL airplane! It's so big and shiny! It has ENGINES UNDER THE WINGS! :D

LOL, OMG You are sooo funny and original!!! HOW did you come up with that one?

lakehouse 03-13-2013 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1370979)
Eagle Pilots: Welcome to the Jungle.................

Very easy for you to say.

PurdueFlyer 03-13-2013 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1370598)
No, I'm not bitter about that. But I am tired of BB getting away with treating his pilot group like crap year after year. It's clear that he continues to use the RLA to avoid paying his pilot's a livable wage, and it's crap. The RAH pilots deserve better.

It's because the RAH pilots have no balls. They need to do something to demonstrate that they are worth while. Providing great on time performance and a good completion factor will not help them and will keep them in negotiations for another 5-10 years.

Fly the book and the contract and show zero remorse. They need to take a lesson from what the legacy ASA pilots did

ross9238 03-13-2013 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by F2m185 (Post 1371048)
Go fly a c402 for a few years and get back to me on your above comment, thanks

I am lost but what does a c402 have to do with a jet? Are you saying that after flying that around for a while, you will take the first job that is offered?

Geardownflaps30 03-13-2013 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer (Post 1371187)
It's because the RAH pilots have no balls. They need to do something to demonstrate that they are worth while. Providing great on time performance and a good completion factor will not help them and will keep them in negotiations for another 5-10 years.

Fly the book and the contract and show zero remorse. They need to take a lesson from what the legacy ASA pilots did

LOL

You obviously haven't read their contract!

F2m185 03-14-2013 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by ross9238 (Post 1371194)
I am lost but what does a c402 have to do with a jet? Are you saying that after flying that around for a while, you will take the first job that is offered?

Nope I didn't say that at all, you made those deductions all on your own. You sound pretty silly for poking fun at people that are impressed by an aircraft and their desire to fly it.

Go fly around a 30,000hr 402 airframe for a few years then we'll see how "starry eyed" you are upgrading to an E175.

Red97Vette 03-14-2013 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by F2m185 (Post 1371682)
Nope I didn't say that at all, you made those deductions all on your own. You sound pretty silly for poking fun at people that are impressed by an aircraft and their desire to fly it.

Go fly around a 30,000hr 402 airframe for a few years then we'll see how "starry eyed" you are upgrading to an E175.

Aaaaand so what?? You dont see Delta DC9 drivers complaining about how terrible it is to fly old equipment. As long as the pay is there/QOL that should be the main concern. They don't hop to fancy new equipment and take pay cuts just to they can fly a shiny jet..

F2m185 03-14-2013 07:19 AM

Thats your opinion, so don't speak for the rest of the people on here. Who are you to tell others what to base their decisions on? You're assuming you know the pay and QOL for everyone on here and you dont have a clue. For all you know flying for Republic could be someones first job or even a pay raise. If you dont want to fly at Republic or fly a piece of equipment thats your prerogative not everyone else's so keep your judgemental garbage to yourself


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