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RJ Pilot 03-16-2013 06:24 AM

Eagle Future
 
This is what I was told from a Usair employee today.....they were told by their management that our L Eagle will be parted out and shut down. According to them, they have several more better ( and cheaper ) companies than ours to do the flying..

It is supposedly to start with us stop hiring fa's.... offer leaves of absence , then the emb's will stop being painted, pilot hiring stops, emb's all go away, then all CRJ's are sent to another carrier and the remaining pilots and fa's are terminated.... ( sound familiar ???)

I know everyone will call BS on this one..... But it was very surprising to hear from this Particular employee...

Take it for what its worth....


1. yes they indeed stopped hiring FA's. In fact they are offering LOA's for the month of April.

2. Not painting all emb's.

3. No fleet plan, no plan whatsoever, not even a new name.

snippercr 03-16-2013 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1373118)
This is what I was told from a Usair employee today.....they were told by their management that our L Eagle will be parted out and shut down. According to them, they have several more better ( and cheaper ) companies than ours to do the flying..

It is supposedly to start with us stop hiring fa's.... offer leaves of absence , then the emb's will stop being painted, pilot hiring stops, emb's all go away, then all CRJ's are sent to another carrier and the remaining pilots and fa's are terminated.... ( sound familiar ???)

I know everyone will call BS on this one..... But it was very surprising to hear from this Particular employee...

Take it for what its worth....


1. yes they indeed stopped hiring FA's. In fact they are offering LOA's for the month of April.

2. Not painting all emb's.

3. No fleet plan, no plan whatsoever, not even a new name.

Yawn................

RyanP 03-16-2013 06:44 AM

:rolleyes: Why do people even post this ridiculous made up garbage?

Tell him an Eagle employee overheard some higher up in management say they were loading up USair planes on a cargo ship next week and dumping them into the Caribbean to form an artificial reef for tourism. Apparently it's more profitable than flying them. Everyone will be fired by the end of the month. Sorry..

embraer 03-16-2013 06:45 AM

Because he has nothing better to do with his life.

Tsuda 03-16-2013 06:46 AM

It's on Eagle Lounge and Talk Airline too.

AllisonRR 03-16-2013 06:49 AM

Unless your friend is Doug Parker no reason to post this info.

embraer 03-16-2013 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1373132)
It's on Eagle Lounge and Talk Airline too.

Quoted from this forum. What is your point?

feltf4 03-16-2013 06:55 AM

You guys! Come on. How can you discredit such a valuable source of information such as RJ! He shown to be nothing but a wealth of knowledge, he has great communication skills. He shows nothing but the utmost respect for his peers as well as genuine concern and respect for those on this form. He is also always there to answer peoples questions and respond with constructive comments. Take for example, yesterday I posted about not being sure I wanted to leave my current stable job. He respectfully responded with, "Already washed out before training?". What a gem you are RJ.........


Can we end this thread before it gets out of hand?

feltf4 03-16-2013 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1373138)
Quoted from this forum. What is your point?

Its on the internet so it must be true!

snippercr 03-16-2013 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 1373147)
Its on the internet so it must be true!

No, if its on EL and TA it MUST be true. I love how rumors start on one board, get carried to another then on the third its "its on 2 other boards, it must be true.."

BTpilot 03-16-2013 07:55 AM

Yeah man and my buddy just got hired by TWA.. Starts 727 groundschool in 2 weeks..

Heard it on a couple forums the class size is like 30 guys!!

jumpseat2024 03-16-2013 08:44 AM

Eagle Future
 
Who exactly is going to cover 3000+ pilots worth of flying? Even spread out over 4-5 other regionals is a lot to cover.

bretthull 03-16-2013 09:24 AM

I needed a good laugh today. Thanks!

Tsuda 03-16-2013 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1373138)
Quoted from this forum. What is your point?

It was posted on Talk Airline yesterday at 6:24pm, and posted on Eagle Lounge last night at 9:15pm. Better to remain silent and be thought of a fool, then to opens one's mouth and remove all doubt.

MtnPeakCruiser 03-16-2013 09:42 AM

Wow! I'm glad someone's friend of a friend at US Airways has the full inside scoop on Eagle, I was almost completely blindsided!

Give me a f$cking break.

Tsuda 03-16-2013 10:04 AM

My original post was not to add to the validity of the post. It was just let people know the rumor is going around. Personally, I think Doug P. has enough on his plate. One hears all kinds of rumors going around. But, if someone posts a condescending remark, and has their facts wrong. You can fill in the rest.

embraer 03-16-2013 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1373242)
It was posted on Talk Airline yesterday at 6:24pm, and posted on Eagle Lounge last night at 9:15pm. Better to remain silent and be thought of a fool, then to opens one's mouth and remove all doubt.

You may want to take your own advice there.

EL quoted Talk Airline who quoted APC who quoted EL...and around and around the Internet rumors go. If you are taking any of it seriously to the point you are checking time stamps on three different forums then you need to go outside some and breath fresh air.

Tsuda 03-16-2013 10:58 AM

I see the thread was started here today at 6:24am. And it was real difficult to check three different forums. Less than two minutes, I guess we can add lazy to your list of attributes.

embraer 03-16-2013 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1373284)
I see the thread was started here today at 6:24am. And it was real difficult to check three different forums. Less than two minutes, I guess we can add lazy to your list of attributes.

More like I have a life. I also don't read any into he-said/she-said internet rumors.

Keep digging yourself in deeper. At this point I'm still not sure I should be laughing or feeling sorry for you.

Turn off the computer and go have a beer. Make some friends. Talk to some girls. It is a beautiful world out there. You are letting the interweb influence your mood too much.

Karma 03-16-2013 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by jumpseat2024 (Post 1373208)
Who exactly is going to cover 3000+ pilots worth of flying? Even spread out over 4-5 other regionals is a lot to cover.

I could see the RJ Pilot's rumor happening but it will be a long slow transition...maybe over 5 to 10 years, enough time to flow everybody to AA.

Spoiler 03-16-2013 11:50 AM

It is true that in the RFP process there were offers to do ALL the eagle flying
This does square with the OP'er

pagey 03-16-2013 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 1373147)
Its on the internet so it must be true!

Bonjour...

buddies8 03-16-2013 12:06 PM

actually, all those accepting the rfp and feed are now under the possible acquisition stage by amr.

Wingtips 03-16-2013 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 1373295)
It is true that in the RFP process there were offers to do ALL the eagle flying
This does square with the OP'er

Prove it. You can't.

buddies8 03-16-2013 12:25 PM

spoiler, when you say offers, by whom are you referrimg to? AA making the offer or the regioanls aplying for the feed make the offer to do all of eagle flying?

What 03-16-2013 12:27 PM

One thing to consider as well, is that on the same day the company sent LOA to FA for April they announced the CFI bridge program. Rumors are rumors, but there is so much going on that is hard to tell.

What 03-16-2013 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1373303)
spoiler, when you say offers, by whom are you referrimg to? AA making the offer or the regioanls aplying for the feed make the offer to do all of eagle flying?

Any Regional out there that says they would pick up all of AMR's feed that Eagle does is saying they can double in size overnight!

RyanP 03-16-2013 12:42 PM

Why is this thread not locked? Everything here is made up BS.

feltf4 03-16-2013 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by RyanP (Post 1373312)
Why is this thread not locked? Everything here is made up BS.

I know thats what I said this morning.... Anything from RJ needs to be locked immediately

buddies8 03-16-2013 01:19 PM

only until it come true.
LAX BASE CLOSED.
LAX FLYING TO SKW.
DFW FLYING TAKEN BY EJT.
RAH 47 E175 AIRCRAFT FOR AA FEED.
RAH REPLACING EAGLE IN ORD AS PER BK FILING BY AA.
SJU CLOSED.

Yeap, lock this thread until it becomes true., like all the rest have.

Karma 03-16-2013 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1373305)
Any Regional out there that says they would pick up all of AMR's feed that Eagle does is saying they can double in size overnight!

Well if the top 3 regionals say they would pick it all up then that is an increase of 30% and it doesn't have to be overnight. Spread it out over 3 years and that is less than 10% growth per year.

buddies8 03-16-2013 01:57 PM

and the 1000 pilots per 30% will come from which flight school?
and why would aa give that much control to 3 feeders which is if you believe aa management there purpose to diversify to 4/5 feeders to keep costs down? You might as well keep the majority of flying with the owned feeders. When the contracts start to be coming up for renewal at the non owned feeders then the story will be known. The RAH 12 year deal was for RAH to finance the aircraft using the 12 year feed contract as collateral.

but stanger things in this industry have happened.

gold 03-16-2013 02:17 PM

Does anyone know if GoJet has a non-compete agreement in ORD similar to Skywest's?

PurdueFlyer 03-16-2013 02:59 PM

One thing to keep in mind is that all of Eagle's capacity doesn't need to be replaced. Over at DCI Delta is reducing the overall size of the regional fleet and replacing it with larger RJs.

AA could do the same thing, but reward large RJs to other carriers while parking a larger number of Eagle ERJs

buddies8 03-16-2013 03:03 PM

more power to them. but i have to ask, then why is aa/ae doing so much to get new hires when all they have to do is let attrition and retiring aircraft take care of the pesky problem of eagle.

meeko031 03-16-2013 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1373297)
Bonjour...


...yeah, he's a French model!

Karma 03-16-2013 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1373366)
and the 1000 pilots per 30% will come from which flight school?
and why would aa give that much control to 3 feeders which is if you believe aa management there purpose to diversify to 4/5 feeders to keep costs down? You might as well keep the majority of flying with the owned feeders. When the contracts start to be coming up for renewal at the non owned feeders then the story will be known. The RAH 12 year deal was for RAH to finance the aircraft using the 12 year feed contract as collateral.

but stanger things in this industry have happened.

They won't come from a flight school, mostly Eagle furloughs. 3 is more than plenty to compete, not to mention GoJet will keep the big 3's cost in check.

fullflank 03-16-2013 03:25 PM

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how does Parker get out of the aircraft leases? Can he use the bankrupcy to do that? And when they exit bankryptcy, dont those leases stay in place? I think their is alot of paranoia around here about nothing. AA cant lose the feed eagle provides, if even they really want to, which we dont know.

LineHolder 03-16-2013 03:39 PM

Eagles days are numbered......

RJ Pilot 03-16-2013 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 1373335)
I know thats what I said this morning.... Anything from RJ needs to be locked immediately

See you on the 15th.


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