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JamesNoBrakes 04-08-2013 03:35 PM

So everyone call in sick, right?

I knew it would come to this. The moment I saw airlines trying to cram airplanes with 100% load factors years ago, I knew the commuting model was dated. How long until there is no commuting and you have to live in base? Although it's far-fetched for airlines, it's not all that far-fetched for any other business, and you can bet the goal of airline management is to make the airlines like any other business.

Edit: I'm not sure if this rumor is solid yet, but I don't think it's out of line with the way the industry has been moving...

block30 04-08-2013 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1386996)
By the segment as well. It's anywhere from 10-20 bucks/segment coach (add a few bucks for first). After 5 years, domestic coach is free. Less than 5 years it's only free if you are forced on the jumpseat - you cannot "ask" for the jumpseat to not get charged. Boarding is by checkin time and all AMR employees (AA and "L-Eagle") are the same priority. All other "Eagles/Connection" board a lower priority.

Eagle guys have to pay to commute to work?!

I hope this United scheme of paying to commute to work is a joke. If not, I'm lost for words...:mad:

PBSG 04-08-2013 03:38 PM

Just think: When we get our new big planes at XJT our $2 raise will cover the round trip cost of commuting with a 20 hour pairing!!!

2 steps forward, 20 steps back! God I hate this industry!

NoLightOff 04-08-2013 03:44 PM

The memo***

Dear Regional Travel Partners,

We sincerely thank all of you for your patience as we transition through the ups
and downs of our new processes and systems.

We appreciate that each of you took the time to speak to us last Friday. We are
very happy to announce that the pass travel policies, including eligible pass
riders, boarding priorities and network availability is not changing for your
co-workers or retirees. As we explained during the call, an analysis was done
and we have a (dollars)7M gap per year to break-even with regional employee
travel. We reviewed various membership opt-in fee models, but were not able
to come up with a reasonable model to cover a (dollars)7M recapture. As a
result, we will move to an all segment fee program and will be discontinuing the
Annual Membership fee program effective May 1.

Those currently on the segment fee program will have no changes, except you will
no longer have to opt in and out each year. Here is a recap for those of you
that are currently on the Annual Membership program.

%95 Employees will no longer need to opt-in or opt-out for the travel program each year
%95 All employees are considered opted-in and will only pay as they go, either pre-paid or payroll deduct, as applicable
%95 Employees will pay the same fees as a UA employee, plus the following service charges.
%95 Initially all base segment fees will be collected via payroll
deduct. We are working on the technology to pre-pay this fee upfront with the other fees. We will have an ETA on this in the 4Q13.

The new base segment fees to be in effect as of May 1:

Base Segment Charges:
Home Airline: (dollars) 0
Other UAX, United Mainline- Domestic1: (dollars) 20
United Mainline - Other International2: (dollars) 50

Service Charges are subject to change. Please refer to United's Flying
Together-Travel intranet information for details on the UA employee fees**.
1 Domestic travel: within the 48 contiguous United States, as well as Alaska
and Hawaii. Domestic travel will also include travel within the Micronesia
Islands and from Guam and/or Saipan to the Micronesia Islands.
2 International travel: will be consider all other travel, including travel
to Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, Europe, Africa,
Asia, Guam, Micronesia and the South Pacific, to be international travel.
** Service Charges vary by distance and class of service used and are in
addition to the Base Segment Charge.

Omnivorous 04-08-2013 03:48 PM

Kill me now.

RgrMurdock 04-08-2013 03:52 PM

This is a war against all commuters

block30 04-08-2013 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Whaledriver101 (Post 1387023)
Nolightoff,, Just hush up and pay your dues "little man". It'll all come in time. I made 20k a year for years at the regionals. Unless your coming from the military(never held a job),, born with a silver spoon crammed in your ***,, your going to have to pay your dues 2x. Just the way it is. Be happy and really enjoy the ride.

If by paying dues you mean developing one's self personally or professionally, fine. But paying to get to work as an airline pilot is requisite dues paying? Please.

Employees should not be used as a revenue stream.

Also, pilots help other pilots, whether it is commuting or any number of things.

ImEbee 04-08-2013 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Whaledriver101 (Post 1387023)
Nolightoff,, Just hush up and pay your dues "little man". It'll all come in time. I made 20k a year for years at the regionals. Unless your coming from the military(never held a job),, born with a silver spoon crammed in your ***,, your going to have to pay your dues 2x. Just the way it is. Be happy and really enjoy the ride.

Little man? Tell me "Pops", how many times have you had to pay to jumpseat? Besides wasn't 20k more like 100k when adjusted for inflation?....

Paying your dues is one thing but having to pay to get to work only because you have the misfortune of flying express for that mainline is another. It has nothing to do with silver spoons and flapping scarves. I know it has been this way for Eagle and I always thought it was ass backwards. Here is a good idea, lets put obstacles in front of the people you rely on to move your own passengers. That seems reasonable.

pagey 04-08-2013 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Whaledriver101 (Post 1387023)
Nolightoff,, Just hush up and pay your dues "little man". It'll all come in time. I made 20k a year for years at the regionals. Unless your coming from the military(never held a job),, born with a silver spoon crammed in your ***,, your going to have to pay your dues 2x. Just the way it is. Be happy and really enjoy the ride.


Is this a joke? Amazing some of the things people will say when the other person isn't standing across from them.

I'm hoping I just blatantly missed the sarcasm here because if not this is one of the most arrogant, disrespectful, straight up dbag posts I've ever seen on this board.

"little man"??? Really? Get a life.

JoeyMeatballs 04-08-2013 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 1386966)
It's a username... I don't fly a beech. You must fly meatballs then.

Hahahaha, that was pretty funny......


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