This is a good AND valid summary for anyone asking.

Exactly. Anyone who says Colgan "didn't have any problems" is new to the industry - Every Continental ops out there HATED Colgan, no end to crew issues and mx issues on the big Q ... and that little detail of killing 50 people.

One more thing regarding ORD for Shuttle and Republic is that within 2 years the program should be complete for all EMB pilots to fly the 170 & 175 regardless of cert; base swapping should become easier.

Reminds me of XE when the jungle jets came online. My cousin was over there when I was in high school. Think they had all kinds of fadec or something with the electronic engine control issues.

Please don't come here until we have a new contract.

That is the company's line.

To all that are considering coming here: think of yourself as certificate/type locked until upgrade. Setting any expectation for swapping is going to lead to disappointment.

Is there any movement concerning your contract talks? I would think the Teamsters could bring some type of pressure to bare on the NMB. Best of luck to you all.

Wow 6 years, that's not too bad! It took my buddy over at Eagle over 8 years and another 12 years at Horizon.

Yeah, but all it takes is the Chautauqua pilots coming over to Republic (due to CHQ closure) to make our upgrade times as long as Eagle and Horizon. And if I were a betting man....

No news, no hope. Teamsters is useless in this battle.

Well if that did happen then the 50 new 175s would even that out. I don't think teamsters is the problem but the railway labor act is to blame.

Is ATL a possible option for a domicile? I see it listed under the Shuttle America bases...

Yes if you get hired into Shuttle. You can usually hold ATL within a month or two after training but it's very senior and you'll be on reserve for a very long time.

Could you elaborate on this a little, please? Gracias.

ORD will be a base on the AE side (republic vert.) as well as an existing base the UA side (shuttle cert.). HQ is wanting to open up the base to allow both the shuttle and republic pilots to fly both the UA and AE flying.

As long as you guys keep putting up decent to good on time performance nothing will change.

You have to demonstrate why you are important to keep happy. Do what ASA did a little over 7 years ago and what AA did this past fall.

Quite honestly I don't think your pilot group has the courage needed to take the necessary action to force Bedford's hand.

You can complain all you want about the teamsters being useless but a union's strength is derived entirely from it's membership. Stop whining and do something that demonstrates your value.

Why should Bedford do anything other than drag his feet? He has no incentive to do otherwise. He doesn't care how much you whine. As long as classes keep getting filled and the money keeps flowing he'll do nothing.

PurdueFlyer really gets it! +1

Yeah, I agree, well said.

Not quite. Through an FAA procedure and training all pilots would be eligible to fly on either cert in any base. Eventually the Shuttle cert will go away.

Don't you have some concessions to agree to Bolo??

Couldn't of said it better. That goes for all groups in the stuggle not just republic.

Purdue is right. This pilot group is soft. I had faith that we could do what was necessary when the time was right. That faith is fading.

Don't misunderstand me. The hard part is not walking when we are told to. It is making the decision that you aren't going to take the path of least resistance.
Go ahead, drop the brake to stay on time. After all it makes you more money right? Or is it that you just don't want to get that phone call as to why you're late?

Most don't want to take the hit to their wallet.

I am leaving at least 5 hours on the table every month by not helping out.

We are never going to make progress if management thinks that 51% are happy with things as they are.

Why don't more see that the answer isn't going to come from the Teamsters? It isn't going to come from the NMB either.

AA management couldn't get back to the table fast enough when the pilots showed them who runs Barter Town.

Nothing special here. Fly the book and do your job. Only your job.

But that's all been said before and nothing changes. I will keep doing what I do and hope that others catch on. But my true effort will be in getting out of here. After all, that's what Bedford wants anyway.

Where is the next base after ORD for the new 175s? DFW or MIA?

For all those people not considering coming to RP. upgrade time, work rules, bases, whatever.... Think about it. If you get hired into the AE flying you will be based in ORD with great seniority for at least the next four years. The rest of the FO's cant swap certificates. The rest of us have to wait for the type of schedules and QOL you'll get. Sure this place "sucks" but they all do. Don't listen to these "sjs" morons. I wish I would've got hired at this time!

karma the next Republic e175 base for AE flying will be DFW. they are keeping it a secret from the ae pilos. All L-AE CRJ's from ORD will be moved out of ORD to the east coast and 10 EMB's from L-AE ORD will be gone by february. Now if only Republic can get ASPEN qualification they can get some LAX flying also.

Bedford's been promising that kind of stuff since the 170s came online and the FAA has shot him down at every turn. Heck when they set up the Republic Certificate they tried cutting and pasting the CHQ manual and the FAA said no way. That was part of the reason starting the Republic certificate was such a freakin goat rope and the 170s ended up at Shuttle.

If you go to Republic believing the FAA is going to allow bidding across certificates without initial training then you will be very dissappointed. It would be like allowing United and US Airways to bid across because they are both a part of the same alliance. Will never happen. Count on it. More Bedford Propaganda. Bedford tried to get the FAA to approve common SOCs and maintenance across the 3 certificates and the FAA has consistently said no.

However what you will likely see at all operations with multiple certificates is a move to consolidate them into as few certificates as possible due to the horrendous cost of running multiple certificates. Now that the AA and CO scope has been relaxed to allow the larger RJs, the reason for creating this multiple certificate mess has gone away. Merging these certificates takes time, but will eventually happen. Its all about cost, and accountants hate duplication.

So what travel benefits will the ORD AE 175 guys get? Will it just be AA?

Surely there will also be movement on the S5 side with guys upgrading over to RW now?

Never mind.

[QUOTE=3stripes;1393532]So what travel benefits will the ORD AE 175 guys get? Will it just be AA?


I'm not sure what you mean by AA travel benefits, but if you're asking will you have access to jetnet and 24 hour check-in, D2s, D1s, etc, I highly doubt it.

ask the skywest and express jet guys, they are in LAX and DFW. They would know best.

It depends on your base. You will get whatever codeshare operates out of your base plus Frontier and maybe United. All RP employees used to get United benefits but it changed, and I've heard UAL has gone back to offering benefits to all UAL employees.

For instance, CHQ SDF employees get UA, US, and DL because all of those operations operate out of SDF.

So an RW E175 guy based in ORD and flying for AE wouldn't get UAL benefits because the Q400s don't flying into ORD?

Depends on what the current UAL policy is. At one time all Republic employees regardless of codeshare got UAL benefits, then it changed to only those supporting the UAL operation. I don't work at RP anymore, but I heard it was going back to the old policy of all employees getting UAL benefits again.

They will get probably flying benefits in their own routes.

AA & AE employees (if is like skw and xjet) will get priority on standby on your own metal.

AA & AE employees (if is like skw and xjet) will get priority on standby on your own metal.

As of policy right now you are correct. You would get AA benefits only (and that's a ways off). Travel, as of two weeks ago is not providing UA benefits unless you fly UA on the RW certificate (ie Q-400). Regardless of what is flown in your "base".

You would not get US, UA, DL, or any other benefits. You get priority low on F9 where a retired ramper's unaccompanied buddy pass rider bumps you or your family.

if your motivation is passes, go to Eagle.

Are you kidding?

LGA

Joint LGA/JFK. No relief on the 90-min reserve call-out.

Don't forget EWR..