Yeah, a 27% raise is just a joke.

You mean you want them to act like a professional and do the job they're paid to do. All of the job, not just the part "they" consider important.
Good luck with that.

You are correct; just doing your job correctly is the best tool we have.

I spoke to a United pilot after their "Summer of Love." In retrospect, he wished they had flown at the speed of heat instead of slowing down.

Slowing down hurts the passengers more than the Company and drove some passengers to Management's side.

Flying fast burns the gas (I know the Airline that pays the CPA pays for the fuel) and keeps the passengers happy, so that when the drive is over, you still have a customer base.

Both scenarios are fairly irrelevant as Management is calling both the "fast and the slow flyer's" in for a carpet dance...

People are clueless. We fly using ACARS generated Econ speeds; per the company; and these speeds are slow as molasses. Quit speculating on your own about what we should do. We're flying by the book. (Unless I have a flight to catch).

That's true. However there have been a few CAs that got in trouble because they were overblocking constantly by flying even slower than Econ speed. I know of one guy that was told resign or get fired because he was flying so slow they got him for safety of flight reasons. That's what prompted that memo a while back about not flying slower than flight plan speed unless we are early.

At .65? Seriously? I call BS

I cannot tell you how many times I have been stuck behind a Chautauqua, Brickyard, or Mercury heading into LGA or DCA who claimed .62-.68 when asked for their speed. My minimum is .72-.74 depending on weight and model. You should hear the stink they put up when ATC asked them to do at least .75. This is pilot generated.

Call BS all you like, 170 Econ speeds are WELL below .72-.74. Hell, even CHQ dispatch files us for .70 as the norm. If they file it, we fly it...

Oh... "Captain Tony." The world needs d-bags to laugh at. You get so wrapped around the axle about the dumbest sh!t. Just keep posting and I'll keep laughing.

At psa our econo speeds typically come to .65 or below. I wont even fly the sometimes .60 that is generated at altitute because its just too damn slow. So I dont think these rah guys are making anything up. Ofcourse if atc asks for .75 or better I always oblige.

The 170 is a slower airplane than the CRJ because of the wing. At Pinnacle they never wanted us below .70 but here I've had ACARS econ anywhere from .62 to .71, you really shouldn't make assumptions unless you know both sides of the coin.... And even then it's still stupid to assume

That ad is verging on libelous. Not quite enough to sue over it, but close.

Please, do tell, oh F9 aviation Wonder-God. Please tell how the public, to which this is addressed, is being so misled? Or is just that us RAH low-lifers deserve the worst of the worst?

Butt out regional lifer. Worry about your own speeds and we'll worry about ours. Actually, please keep posting. It's fun to laugh at.

Bottom feeders.

I don't know if there's a good way to fix the pilot pay conundrum. There are currently enough regional pilots to fill the massive vacancies that could come up at the majors...the pilots who'll leave will be the regional captains looking to move on and up. The FO's who are behind them will be happy to see them leave so they can upgrade and finally make a livable wage...the FO's will be relishing in how wealthy they've suddenly become, and at which point life will be peachy. If the major hiring continues for long enough, the FO's former FO's will have the ability to move on as well, once they have the prerequisite flight requirements...once that happens the upgrade times at the respective regional airlines become so short that it seems like a good deal for new hires to start running to their ranks again...and the crap pay seems livable...at least for the short period of time you're an FO.

The only way this really works is a mass exodus of pilots from the regionals via resignations, and that just isn't going to happen...unless upgrades at all the regionals stretches to 10 years plus...then you might see some adjustment, and people who are unwilling to suffer in the "suck".

Kinda like the DFR lawsuit that you guys keep shooting your mouths off over?

...or the IBT national over-ruling the local on the LBFO when that didn't happen?

...or the HIMS program that you guys claimed that RJET didn't have that had been up and running for nearly a year?

Keep coming with this stuff, fellas...it's entertaining.

Interesting points..

Huh, and I thought I was being supportive and helpful.

Oh well.

The ad says "chances are" your pilot takes home less than $1000 per month. The average person on the street would probably take that to mean it's somewhere around a 50/50 chance. It's pretty fuzzy wording, aimed to mislead. Like I said, it's verging on libel, and you can't sue for that. I'm sure the lawyers looked it over first.

Something similar happened at Mesa once, where someone said to the media that there were Mesa pilots on food stamps. The CEO wanted a lawsuit, or to have someone fired, but as it turned out, THAT statement was 100% concise, and 100% accurate.

I had hoped that my identity was anonymous here, but you've evidently figured out who I am.

You deserve a heck of a lot better than IBT. Hopefully you are far enough past the scare tactics of two years ago to have the common sense to fire the IBT as your representation. That's the part in this whole mess that I find most frustrating, but I guess it's understandable given the lack of experience that the majority of your pilots probably have with airline union representation. I was in your shoes at one point too (3 unions ago).

Wasn't necessarily directed at you. A moron started complaining how we fly and the speeds we fly and I was sick of the sheep following in step. It's a really bad time at this company right now and most of us are on edge.

Cannot blame you for being on edge. Unfortunately, the drama and side show with CM and IBT has not gotten RAH pilots any closer to getting a new contract. What are your dues money going toward? Your pilot group deserves way more than this!

Yes, they do. Unfortunately CM and company were appointed because so few were willing to step up. It's a difficult and thankless job but I often wonder where things would be if the pilot group would have taken a more active role in their future.

I'll agree that "chances are" would be incorrect. It seems no matter what, it's constantly a 'spin machine' from all sides involved.

I'd like to, and I think since we are 'on-ice' it might be a decent time for it. Not enough agree with me though.