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QuagmireGiggity 06-06-2013 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by V1 ROT8 (Post 1423562)
No, not surprised at all. Just putting it out there for those who think they're gonna start going in August. I do think the 824 will go EVENTUALLY. The key will be how long eventually turns out to be. And unfortunately, AMR has a bad track record in this area.

That rumor is from over at EAgle lounge I don't think is true.. .what was said in the AA class on June 5th was they are expecting hiring in Oct and it will be 50mo.
They did cancel one class because training dept. is backed up. They need he pilots at AA more than Eagle.

Royer 06-07-2013 07:27 AM

Road shows for the 824 start next week, FWIW

What 06-07-2013 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Royer (Post 1424101)
Road shows for the 824 start next week, FWIW

Ha ha, RJ in 3....2....1..

RJ Pilot 06-07-2013 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1424104)
Ha ha, RJ in 3....2....1..

They can do all the Roadshows they want. That doesn't mean the 824's are leaving soon. Remember kids, they have to keep the moral up somehow.

What 06-07-2013 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1424128)
They can do all the Roadshows they want. That doesn't mean the 824's are leaving soon. Remember kids, they have to keep the moral up somehow.

Makes absolute sense, do 824 roadshow with projections to get people's hopes up and improve moral all the while cancel classes at AA and tell the Eagle pilots that it will me X amount longer for them to flow. Yea that will not **** people off at all, the same with all the FO whom lost their vacation as they were awarded an upgrade, they will be just peachy to see their training date be pushed back.

RJ Pilot 06-08-2013 07:36 AM

Flowthru shut down at least for 2 months for now. It will be interesting how many of the 824's will get to flow to the land of rainbows and unicorns as the date of the merger becomes closer.

What 06-08-2013 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1424784)
Flowthru shut down at least for 2 months for now. It will be interesting how many of the 824's will get to flow to the land of rainbows and unicorns as the date of the merger becomes closer.

Enlighten us how AA will shrink and US AIrways will grow just so the 824 don't flow from the regional who will park airplanes and lose flying as everyone else picks up the flying!

It's very simple, the training department at AA is backlogged. AMR actually tried to invite the last number of numbered guys ahead of schedule and just at the last minute over 30 AA pilots on furlough accepted recall. The class is full of AA pilots and the training center is already backlogged. This will likely be the tune for August as well since the payout date gets closer those who were waiting for junior folks to get on property first so they had a little cushion when they hit the line accept. But please tell me how US Airways management who will lead the combined umbrella will just crap all over the MOU and **** on the 824 agreement.

Parker has repeatedly said that it will be first QT 2015 before they have a single certificate.

RJ Pilot 06-08-2013 11:24 AM

There are about 1,200 undeferals left. They are slowly coming back pushing AE flows and the 824's down.

It could be months or years for the flow to be over with.

flysooner9 06-08-2013 12:04 PM

The deferrals will stop coming back after the payout is over.

450knotOffice 06-08-2013 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1424885)
There are about 1,200 undeferals left. They are slowly coming back pushing AE flows and the 824's down.

It could be months or years for the flow to be over with.

Oy...:rolleyes:

You have no idea... Do you even know why the deferrals decided to come back? I'll give you a hint. Equity Stake payout.

RJ Pilot 06-17-2013 08:36 AM

https://twitter.com/ATWOnline/status/346594237078462464

Skywest is in a great position. Why again should someone come to AE?

theHub 06-17-2013 12:09 PM


I doubt you will lose your chiefs. US Airways has 2 regional airlines. Both have their own Presidents and Vice Pres. Parker doesn't have the time or energy to manage the wholly owned regionals. My prediction is that there will be a merger of Airways and American. Then there will be three regionals under the umbrella.

But.....

From what i hear the Mainline Airways pilots have a combined seniority list that includes PSA/Piedmont pilots. I assume to bring the number of mainline pilots at airways look higher. There has always been rumors of a flow thru from the wholly ownes to mainline but nothing ever became of it.

Parker can run a better airline that Horton. And don't flatter yourself too much. American does have some nice airplanes but you are plagued with some stale old crusty f/a's and gate agents like airways. Personally after reading the non-rev travel for express carriers, Airways system is much better.
Mainline has a combined list that includes PDT/PSA pilots? That would be news to us. They don't want us to flow up to Mainline.

RJ Pilot 06-17-2013 12:25 PM

In one of those roadshows today, they announce that in FACT, they will meter the 824's to AA because AE cant hire enough. This will take at least 3yrs min for all of them to go. Lots can happen in 3yrs....

What 06-17-2013 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1429608)
https://twitter.com/ATWOnline/status/346594237078462464

Skywest is in a great position. Why again should someone come to AE?

SKW inc will still shrink over the next few years, these are replacement airplanes not only short term but also long term. By the time these second gen Ejets get around many of the current 76 seaters will be 15+ years old.

lavMan 06-17-2013 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1429742)
In one of those roadshows today, they announce that in FACT, they will meter the 824's to AA because AE cant hire enough. This will take at least 3yrs min for all of them to go. Lots can happen in 3yrs....

I was at a roadshow today, and they said they don't know if they will meter yet, it was specifically asked. But since we're supposed to be down to 120 emb's by 2016, it may work itself out. But everything is a variable at this point. Hell, I may win the powerball this weekend too?

eaglefly 06-17-2013 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by lavMan (Post 1429863)
I was at a roadshow today, and they said they don't know if they will meter yet, it was specifically asked. But since we're supposed to be down to 120 emb's by 2016, it may work itself out. But everything is a variable at this point. Hell, I may win the powerball this weekend too?

A couple of weeks ago I heard it was "definitely not" regarding metering. Now it's "we don't know". In a month or so, it will be...............well, I think you get he idea.

Wingtips 06-17-2013 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1429887)
A couple of weeks ago I heard it was "definitely not" regarding metering. Now it's "we don't know". In a month or so, it will be...............well, I think you get he idea.

depends if the pilots b scale new hires and snap their pay to pinnacle in a few years in exchange for 60 big rjs. Then yes it will meter. If they say no and they keep the blending going on the place, then maybe not.


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