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Old 08-05-2013, 12:44 PM
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For themselves since they are in the 824,
And the MEC chairman and vice chairman and negotiation chairman and both Chicago reps were for it, the DFW, N.Y., MIA and Training Reps were against it. Since the MEC chairman and vice chairman along with negotiation chairman have no vote, the LEC's do, 7 against b scale and the constant two from Chicago were for the b scale. Chicago as a union representation takes management side at everything.

The MEC offered b scale for the 824 to get jobs at us airways as they will at aa.
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The ord reps wanted the group of pilots to be able to vote as a group. They simply didn't want the b scale themselves.
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So let me get this right for the record. Eagle MEC went to airways with a b scale offer in return for better flow and fleet plan. Airways offered something ridiculous and MEC voted it down. Now airways is using that offer as carrot to PSA and probably PDT next?
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The ord reps wanted the group of pilots to be able to vote as a group. They simply didn't want the b scale themselves.
Some swamp land for sale, want to buy? There job is to say no to bull not pass there responsibility to the pilots. The Chicago reps have and are management pawns. Since they say they did not like b scale then they had the opportunity to say so, they did not. They sent an email saying they were against it after they voted for b scale because that was what the vote was for, to send it to the members with there approval of b scale. Thankfully seven lec reps said no to it but as always, Chicago reps are weak in principles and morals, they even were against the investigation for the MEC abuse in spending on alcohol in the thousand at every MEC out for the night party.

So if you buy there excuse then we know how you vote if you are a pilot, or are you an alpa/management troll.
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So let me get this right for the record. Eagle MEC went to airways with a b scale offer in return for better flow and fleet plan. Airways offered something ridiculous and MEC voted it down. Now airways is using that offer as carrot to PSA and probably PDT next?
Yes, except they did not ask for a fleet plan. The MEC board, the base reps voted it down except the Chicago reps, they voted for the b scale. The MEC chair, vice chair and negotiation chairman were livid that it did not pass, they were as the Chicago reps for b scale. This would have filtered to every regional, and this had alpa national support for b scale.
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Yes, except they did not ask for a fleet plan. The MEC board, the base reps voted it down except the Chicago reps, they voted for the b scale. The MEC chair, vice chair and negotiation chairman were livid that it did not pass, they were as the Chicago reps for b scale. This would have filtered to every regional, and this had alpa national support for b scale.
The way I read this is the Eagle MEC tried to push the 824 onto USairways classes and screw those from PSA/PDT and off the street hires by placing their pilots there in exchange for less pay and or a b scale?..... Truly being about themselves as they are part of this 824 with rights to American Airlines?
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The way I read this is the Eagle MEC tried to push the 824 onto USairways classes and screw those from PSA/PDT and off the street hires by placing their pilots there in exchange for less pay and or a b scale?..... Truly being about themselves as they are part of this 824 with rights to American Airlines?
Do you truly believe everything you read on here!
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Do you truly believe everything you read on here!
Well, this one is true.
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Yes, except they did not ask for a fleet plan. The MEC board, the base reps voted it down except the Chicago reps, they voted for the b scale. The MEC chair, vice chair and negotiation chairman were livid that it did not pass, they were as the Chicago reps for b scale. This would have filtered to every regional, and this had alpa national support for b scale.
Every pilot at every airline should be absolutely disgusted with alpa national. How could it be any more clear that they do NOT represent the regional airline pilots, and then by extension all pilots. They are just dues collectors
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So let me get this right for the record. Eagle MEC went to airways with a b scale offer in return for better flow and fleet plan. Airways offered something ridiculous and MEC voted it down. Now airways is using that offer as carrot to PSA and probably PDT next?
Yes, except they did not ask for a fleet plan. The MEC board, the base reps voted it down except the Chicago reps, they voted for the b scale. The MEC chair, vice chair and negotiation chairman were livid that it did not pass, they were as the Chicago reps for b scale. This would have filtered to every regional, and this had alpa national support for b scale.

Not even close according to my sources at Eagle
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