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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1453052)
Of course he references Eagle pilots and they DID have a hand in influencing their reps in opposition to Gutierrez's beliefs, but he shouldn't have included Gutierrez in any way if he truly knew the facts. If his contact in the future is Gutierrez, that isn't much benefit to Eagle pilots per se. I understand Gutierrez only has a limited time in office, so hopefully whenever the next significant issue for all concerned arises requiring collaboration, it won't be Gutierrez or any of his sidekicks involved with mapping this pilot groups or the regional industries future.
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Originally Posted by buddies8
(Post 1452961)
AA management takes flying away, not rah pilots. No pilot group takes flying away, management farms it out to get one to low ball and then squeeze the rest. Anger or disgust should be directed to management not pilot groups.
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Your not doing enough...
I applaud your labor group leader's attempt at Unity. However, the actions of your labor group do not mirror this attempt at regional pilot unity. I understand that your labor group has voted for a strike and that the mediator has not released you into the appropriate avenues with regards to the Railway Labor Act. Your labor group has not given your management any motivation to return to the bargaining table or take your labor group seriously. Your airline obviously still operates within the acceptable parameters of the agreements with all your major airline customers that none of these contracts have attempted to be cancelled by said customers. Your on time performance is obviously still acceptable to the Department of Transportation because your airline is not having massive fines levied against it for terrible operational performance. My point is, your entire labor group has the tools available to force your management back to the bargaining table. Either do to apathy or fear of retribution your labor group lacks the wherewithal to utilize those tools as leverage to force your management to negotiate a reasonable industry leading contract for your pilot group.
I want your labor group to have the same protections and guarantees that I have in my labor contract. I would actually rather see your pilot group awarded with a better contract, one that is industry-leading. You have declared your intentions, if you truly wish to receive support from your regional brothers and sisters and no longer be considered the "Bottom Feeders," of the regional airline industry... It is imperative that your labor group take action now. |
Originally Posted by SpreadEagle
(Post 1453095)
I applaud your labor group leader's attempt at Unity. However, the actions of your labor group do not mirror this attempt at regional pilot unity. I understand that your labor group has voted for a strike and that the mediator has not released you into the appropriate avenues with regards to the Railway Labor Act. Your labor group has not given your management any motivation to return to the bargaining table or take your labor group seriously. Your airline obviously still operates within the acceptable parameters of the agreements with all your major airline customers that none of these contracts have attempted to be cancelled by said customers. Your on time performance is obviously still acceptable to the Department of Transportation because your airline is not having massive fines levied against it for terrible operational performance. My point is, your entire labor group has the tools available to force your management back to the bargaining table. Either do to apathy or fear of retribution your labor group lacks the wherewithal to utilize those tools as leverage to force your management to negotiate a reasonable industry leading contract for your pilot group.
I want your labor group to have the same protections and guarantees that I have in my labor contract. I would actually rather see your pilot group awarded with a better contract, one that is industry-leading. You have declared your intentions, if you truly wish to receive support from your regional brothers and sisters and no longer be considered the "Bottom Feeders," of the regional airline industry... It is imperative that your labor group take action now. |
Originally Posted by SpreadEagle
(Post 1453095)
I applaud your labor group leader's attempt at Unity. However, the actions of your labor group do not mirror this attempt at regional pilot unity. I understand that your labor group has voted for a strike and that the mediator has not released you into the appropriate avenues with regards to the Railway Labor Act. Your labor group has not given your management any motivation to return to the bargaining table or take your labor group seriously. Your airline obviously still operates within the acceptable parameters of the agreements with all your major airline customers that none of these contracts have attempted to be cancelled by said customers. Your on time performance is obviously still acceptable to the Department of Transportation because your airline is not having massive fines levied against it for terrible operational performance. My point is, your entire labor group has the tools available to force your management back to the bargaining table. Either do to apathy or fear of retribution your labor group lacks the wherewithal to utilize those tools as leverage to force your management to negotiate a reasonable industry leading contract for your pilot group.
I want your labor group to have the same protections and guarantees that I have in my labor contract. I would actually rather see your pilot group awarded with a better contract, one that is industry-leading. You have declared your intentions, if you truly wish to receive support from your regional brothers and sisters and no longer be considered the "Bottom Feeders," of the regional airline industry... It is imperative that your labor group take action now. |
Originally Posted by Saabs
(Post 1453118)
Don't say "take action now". Be specific in what u want the RAH pilot group to do. I'm popping my corn getting ready for your proposal.:rolleyes:
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Political niceties.
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Tell me maybe I am wrong but didn't Craig Moffet get fired from RAH about a couple of months ago. What gives? Did they rehire him back or what. I must have been out of the loop here. Thanks for the info!
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Can't believe he's still involved here. Talk about nuts.
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Originally Posted by groundspoiler:1453290
Tell me maybe I am wrong but didn't Craig Moffet get fired from RAH about a couple of months ago. What gives? Did they rehire him back or what. I must have been out of the loop here. Thanks for the info!
As far as our group taking a page from AA pilots I couldn't agree more. There are many of us doing our jobs and only our jobs as safely as we can. We need everyone on board. I don't get why this pilot group is so divided.... Then again, there is a lack of leadership from a lot of the CA here who do everything to get out on time, including releasing the brake without following SOP in order to get on the clock to make a few extra minutes a leg. |
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