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LifeStyler 07-29-2013 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by BLEEDBLACKNGOLD (Post 1453558)
haha awesome rant!! I agree with you. The only "throwing stones" was in reference to the "it's republic's fault".

Looks like I missed yer point... and yup! I agree that it is too late to go back (and become a plumber like my dad told me to). In the end though, I will continue to climb on my soap box every time I hear the pilot on pilot domestic violence. While everyone knows my company is better than all of yours, I don't feel the need to beat other pilots over the head with that fact (hey, where is that "tongue in cheek" smiley?). I can't stand my ALPA, but I am aware of the fact that with or without those bozos who are so well paid to not fly, we line jokers need to not beat each other up. I am loving some of the great posts in the UAL/CAL merger folder, where people from both sides are telling the few vocal idiots on both sides that we need to all stand strong together.

The only thing left for me at my current position is that I still enjoy the time from "flight deck door locked" to "After Landing checklist". If we are jerks to each other, management will have taken that away as well.


Or... if I weren't so verbose, I could have just said...
Hey, can't we all jus' get along?

BLEEDBLACKNGOLD 07-29-2013 10:43 AM

hahah exactly

WBTYM 07-29-2013 11:11 AM

Repeating what was posted on another site, but worth repeating; I really believe the pivotal labor battle is shaping up to be at RAH and their next contract which seems to be coming to a head. AND they seem to have pretty established agreements and job security for flying well into the future they don't have to buy with concessions.

What happens there will have repercussions throughout the whole "regional" industry, either resetting and repairing the damage done at Pinnacle, or firmly entrenching it. Every regional pilot has an interest in making RAH an industry leading pilot compensation and work rule contract.

These guys need our support, because the stage is being set such that everyone in this industry will sink or swim, slave wages or fair wages, depending how it goes down there.

MrBrosef 07-29-2013 12:05 PM


I applaud your labor group leader's attempt at Unity. However, the actions of your labor group do not mirror this attempt at regional pilot unity. I understand that your labor group has voted for a strike and that the mediator has not released you into the appropriate avenues with regards to the Railway Labor Act. Your labor group has not given your management any motivation to return to the bargaining table or take your labor group seriously. Your airline obviously still operates within the acceptable parameters of the agreements with all your major airline customers that none of these contracts have attempted to be cancelled by said customers. Your on time performance is obviously still acceptable to the Department of Transportation because your airline is not having massive fines levied against it for terrible operational performance. My point is, your entire labor group has the tools available to force your management back to the bargaining table. Either do to apathy or fear of retribution your labor group lacks the wherewithal to utilize those tools as leverage to force your management to negotiate a reasonable industry leading contract for your pilot group.

I want your labor group to have the same protections and guarantees that I have in my labor contract. I would actually rather see your pilot group awarded with a better contract, one that is industry-leading. You have declared your intentions, if you truly wish to receive support from your regional brothers and sisters and no longer be considered the "Bottom Feeders," of the regional airline industry... It is imperative that your labor group take action now.
I have been taking action for a long time. I taxi how the AIM tells me. I write up anything even at out stations and on go home day. I won't drop the brake until in communication with ramp. Will only call in range once. If they don't answer not my problem. I never call for ramp agents or jet bridge driver. I will just sit there until someone shows up. I run APU more than allowed.

Just letting you know some of us are doing our part and more are joining everyday.

Also I am voting NO on anything shoved in my face that is not industry leading.

KiloAlpha 07-29-2013 01:04 PM

You are delusional.


Originally Posted by MrBrosef (Post 1453623)
I have been taking action for a long time. I taxi how the AIM tells me. I write up anything even at out stations and on go home day. I won't drop the brake until in communication with ramp. Will only call in range once. If they don't answer not my problem. I never call for ramp agents or jet bridge driver. I will just sit there until someone shows up. I run APU more than allowed.

You think this is actually going to help your cause? Doubtful. Your attitude and actions are pathetic. Do you go home and brag to your friends and family about how you screwed hundreds of passengers over the past 4 days of work? That's who you are really hurting. Executive management doesn't give two sh1ts about your personal slow down. Do you not have any sense of morality or professionalism? With an attitude like this, you deserve to stay at a regional. You are a child.


Also I am voting NO on anything shoved in my face that is not industry leading.
You are never going to get something that is "industry leading." Do you live in a cave or just prefer to ignore the environment in which you operate? Republic is going to get a 9E type contract. Look at the industry around you; not the fantasy one you have created in you head.

MrBrosef 07-29-2013 01:27 PM


You are delusional.


Originally Posted by MrBrosef (Post 1453623)
I have been taking action for a long time. I taxi how the AIM tells me. I write up anything even at out stations and on go home day. I won't drop the brake until in communication with ramp. Will only call in range once. If they don't answer not my problem. I never call for ramp agents or jet bridge driver. I will just sit there until someone shows up. I run APU more than allowed.

You think this is actually going to help your cause? Doubtful. Your attitude and actions are pathetic. Do you go home and brag to your friends and family about how you screwed hundreds of passengers over the past 4 days of work? That's who you are really hurting. Executive management doesn't give two sh1ts about your personal slow down. Do you not have any sense of morality or professionalism? With an attitude like this, you deserve to stay at a regional. You are a child.


Also I am voting NO on anything shoved in my face that is not industry leading.
You are never going to get something that is "industry leading." Do you live in a cave or just prefer to ignore the environment in which you operate? Republic is going to get a 9E type contract. Look at the industry around you; not the fantasy one you have created in you head.
Sorry no fantasy in my head like you think. I can vote NO on anything I want so if a contract does not live up to what I expect it to be than it will be a BIG NO!

Also I am not creating a slow down. Everything I am doing other than Running the APU is completely by my SOP so I am being a safe captain. If you don't like me being safe than that is your own opinion. That's not my fault following my SOP causes delays on pax.

Oskeewowow 07-29-2013 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 1453652)
You are delusional.



You think this is actually going to help your cause? Doubtful. Your attitude and actions are pathetic. Do you go home and brag to your friends and family about how you screwed hundreds of passengers over the past 4 days of work? That's who you are really hurting. Executive management doesn't give two sh1ts about your personal slow down. Do you not have any sense of morality or professionalism? With an attitude like this, you deserve to stay at a regional. You are a child.



You are never going to get something that is "industry leading." Do you live in a cave or just prefer to ignore the environment in which you operate? Republic is going to get a 9E type contract. Look at the industry around you; not the fantasy one you have created in you head.

V.


Originally Posted by SpreadEagle
I applaud your labor group leader's attempt at Unity. However, the actions of your labor group do not mirror this attempt at regional pilot unity. I understand that your labor group has voted for a strike and that the mediator has not released you into the appropriate avenues with regards to the Railway Labor Act. Your labor group has not given your management any motivation to return to the bargaining table or take your labor group seriously. Your airline obviously still operates within the acceptable parameters of the agreements with all your major airline customers that none of these contracts have attempted to be cancelled by said customers. Your on time performance is obviously still acceptable to the Department of Transportation because your airline is not having massive fines levied against it for terrible operational performance. My point is, your entire labor group has the tools available to force your management back to the bargaining table. Either do to apathy or fear of retribution your labor group lacks the wherewithal to utilize those tools as leverage to force your management to negotiate a reasonable industry leading contract for your pilot group.

I want your labor group to have the same protections and guarantees that I have in my labor contract. I would actually rather see your pilot group awarded with a better contract, one that is industry-leading. You have declared your intentions, if you truly wish to receive support from your regional brothers and sisters and no longer be considered the "Bottom Feeders," of the regional airline industry... It is imperative that your labor group take action now.

Which is it? We're either scabbing wusses who won't put up a fight, or pathetic whining babies. We just can't win in the eyes of our peers. I guess I'll just continue to cover my a$$ & fly by the book.

toomanyrjs 07-29-2013 07:08 PM

With the IBT clown show running rampant, there is simply no way there will be anything close to an industry leading contract. RAH pilots should just accept the fact the IBT has lost and the only way to get any sort of contract improvement is to get hired somewhere else. :cool:

Bozo the pilot 07-29-2013 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1453859)
With the IBT clown show running rampant, there is simply no way there will be anything close to an industry leading contract. RAH pilots should just accept the fact the IBT has lost and the only way to get any sort of contract improvement is to get hired somewhere else. :cool:

Good advice for rah and eagle pilots-oh and anyone else at a regional.

V1rotateV2 07-30-2013 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by MrBrosef (Post 1453623)
I have been taking action for a long time. I taxi how the AIM tells me. I write up anything even at out stations and on go home day. I won't drop the brake until in communication with ramp. Will only call in range once. If they don't answer not my problem. I never call for ramp agents or jet bridge driver. I will just sit there until someone shows up. I run APU more than allowed.

Just letting you know some of us are doing our part and more are joining everyday.

AKA--"Highest Degree of Care" and if there is enough participation the message will be received.


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