Some great info. Snap shot of ALPA carriers
09-15-2013 | 04:22 PM
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Usually whenever ANY company is in CBA negotiations, these types of charts/graphs/explainations get put together.
If you have a friend at UAL, they may have the couple hundred page power point presentation that basically did it for the legacies, to include some LCCs as well.
If you have a friend at UAL, they may have the couple hundred page power point presentation that basically did it for the legacies, to include some LCCs as well.
09-15-2013 | 04:50 PM
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But the guy asked a question if such a comparison existed for the majors, and I simply answered it for him.
As well as the collateral answer that they pop up whenever there a CBA in talks. So if/when AA/USAir and DAL start their talks, there will be one for the majors. Or he an simply reference the most recent, done by UAL.
09-15-2013 | 06:40 PM
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But the guy asked a question if such a comparison existed for the majors, and I simply answered it for him.
As well as the collateral answer that they pop up whenever there a CBA in talks. So if/when AA/USAir and DAL start their talks, there will be one for the majors. Or he an simply reference the most recent, done by UAL.
These comparisons made by the ALPA E & FA department typically include all airlines, as non-ALPA carriers' contract or work rules (in case of non-union airlines) affect negotiations.
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09-16-2013 | 02:06 AM
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Silver Airways corrections:
-Duty Rig (2:1)
-Minimum pay per duty period (3 hrs., not 4).
-Deadhead pay is 50% for the first 5 hours (not including any travel to/from training events) and 100% thereafter.
-Open time pick up on a day off is 100%, unless they call you, then it's LDO (Lost Day Off) pay (150% for any flying or minimum 6 hours pay, whichever is greater).
-Per Diem is $1.75 (increases $0.05 the first of each year e.g. $1.80 starting 01JAN2014, $1.85 starting 01JAN2015, etc.).
-Max accrual for sick leave is 160 hours.
Nonetheless, good info, I hope you guys get what you want and then some.
09-16-2013 | 05:00 AM
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Yup.
Silver Airways corrections:
-Duty Rig (2:1)
-Minimum pay per duty period (3 hrs., not 4).
-Deadhead pay is 50% for the first 5 hours (not including any travel to/from training events) and 100% thereafter.
-Open time pick up on a day off is 100%, unless they call you, then it's LDO (Lost Day Off) pay (150% for any flying or minimum 6 hours pay, whichever is greater).
-Per Diem is $1.75 (increases $0.05 the first of each year e.g. $1.80 starting 01JAN2014, $1.85 starting 01JAN2015, etc.).
-Max accrual for sick leave is 160 hours.
Nonetheless, good info, I hope you guys get what you want and then some.
Silver Airways corrections:
-Duty Rig (2:1)
-Minimum pay per duty period (3 hrs., not 4).
-Deadhead pay is 50% for the first 5 hours (not including any travel to/from training events) and 100% thereafter.
-Open time pick up on a day off is 100%, unless they call you, then it's LDO (Lost Day Off) pay (150% for any flying or minimum 6 hours pay, whichever is greater).
-Per Diem is $1.75 (increases $0.05 the first of each year e.g. $1.80 starting 01JAN2014, $1.85 starting 01JAN2015, etc.).
-Max accrual for sick leave is 160 hours.
Nonetheless, good info, I hope you guys get what you want and then some.
You've gotta stop beating me to post haha!
09-16-2013 | 09:20 AM
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