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chopperleo 09-23-2013 06:55 AM

Did not make the flight
 
I was invited to an Eagle interview for tomorrow and they put me on a standby status. With only two flights a day leaving RSW, needless to say, I didn't get on. The lady at the gate told me they were overbooked by 4 and the next flight in the afternoon was worse. She advised me not even to wait around. Anyone else ever experience this?? I tried to get a hold of recruiting but no answer. I sent an email so I hope they respond. IF they reschedule, I am afraid it will be during the class I already have scheduled with PSA. I'm glad I am already hired but was looking forward to the Eagle interview for, at minimum, the experience.

dirtysidedown 09-23-2013 06:57 AM

They flew you stanby? I always had positive when i went on interviews a few years ago.

chopperleo 09-23-2013 07:08 AM

Yeah, I though it was a little weird considering PSA had me on positive space a last week. I though Eagle would do the same but I guess not.

Captain Tony 09-23-2013 07:26 AM

We've hit rock bottom, folks.

AtlCSIP 09-23-2013 07:30 AM

When I interviewed at Eagle a few years ago, I believe I was positive space. Told the gate agent I was interviewing with Eagle and was moved to First Class. At that time, it was the best Domestic first class experience I had ever had.

porqueno 09-23-2013 07:35 AM

drive to miami

pilot0987 09-23-2013 07:37 AM

Why pay for gas when they will get him another ticket.

RJ Pilot 09-23-2013 07:43 AM

They actually did You a favor by not making the flight. Good luck getting a hold of recruiting, they guy in charge is gone for greener pastures,( wonder why) they are currently looking for a CA to fill his shoes.

Captain Tony 09-23-2013 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 1488787)
At that time, it was the best Domestic first class experience I had ever had.

Yes, it's always good advice to get hammered while riding positive space to an interview, lol! :D

PilotJ3 09-23-2013 07:54 AM


I was invited to an Eagle interview for tomorrow and they put me on a standby status. With only two flights a day leaving RSW, needless to say, I didn't get on. The lady at the gate told me they were overbooked by 4 and the next flight in the afternoon was worse. She advised me not even to wait around. Anyone else ever experience this?? I tried to get a hold of recruiting but no answer. I sent an email so I hope they respond. IF they reschedule, I am afraid it will be during the class I already have scheduled with PSA. I'm glad I am already hired but was looking forward to the Eagle interview for, at minimum, the experience.
That does not sound right. You should be positive space going to the interview.

3 years ago I was positive spaced and both flights where full. I guess the gate agent probably doesn't know that.

rightside02 09-23-2013 08:05 AM

Did not make the flight
 
Weird, years back it was a positive space for me and yes I got first class on the way back. I am sure then can rebook you for another interview but that sucks cause that seniority flowing away. Never know , 1 class can be an upgrade or furlough etc .

JohnnyG 09-23-2013 08:57 AM

I had the same problem at a recent interview. They have so few jobs and so many people to interview they don't care if someone falls through the cracks due to travel or paperwork issues.

pagey 09-23-2013 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1488831)
I had the same problem at a recent interview. They have so few jobs and so many people to interview they don't care if someone falls through the cracks due to travel or paperwork issues.

Disagree with this but anywho.....

I interviewed at Eagle in early '11. It was NOT positive space.

I got stuck in DFW for 2 days due to the hailstorm that damaged 80 something AA acft.

TheFly 09-23-2013 09:13 AM

Just curious, how long before the flight did you arrive?

JohnnyG 09-23-2013 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1488836)
Disagree with this but anywho.....

I really wasn't offering an opinion to disagree with, it's just an observation. Its inarguable that they have a surplus of applicants.

Further, the fact that you can't even get phone calls returned regarding travel or paperwork difficulties means they don't care about you.

I had a friend who had a flight cancelled on the way to his eagle interview and couldn't get ahold of them. He arrived in the middle and was chewed out and generally, they were very unprofessional. He obviously didn't get the job.

pagey 09-23-2013 09:31 AM

It was an observation I disagreed with.....I was told my airline has ~100 applications on file about a month ago with plans to hire 30/month. Pretty sure this is the case throughout this section of the industry.

Regionals are not filling classes right now.

blizzue 09-23-2013 09:32 AM

In the nearly 4 years I've been here it's never been positive space. It's an A12 status standby which under certain load conditions can be confirmed. It requires an E inventory seat to be available which is only available when a certain load percentage threshold has not yet been met.

Sorry about the trouble getting to the interview.

minimwage4 09-23-2013 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1488850)
I really wasn't offering an opinion to disagree with, it's just an observation. Its inarguable that they have a surplus of applicants.

Further, the fact that you can't even get phone calls returned regarding travel or paperwork difficulties means they don't care about you.

I had a friend who had a flight cancelled on the way to his eagle interview and couldn't get ahold of them. He arrived in the middle and was chewed out and generally, they were very unprofessional. He obviously didn't get the job.

Welcome to the regionals

TheFly 09-23-2013 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1488850)
I really wasn't offering an opinion to disagree with, it's just an observation. Its inarguable that they have a surplus of applicants.

Further, the fact that you can't even get phone calls returned regarding travel or paperwork difficulties means they don't care about you.


I had a friend who had a flight cancelled on the way to his eagle interview and couldn't get ahold of them. He arrived in the middle and was chewed out and generally, they were very unprofessional. He obviously didn't get the job.

Thus debunking the fabled pilot shortage.

king10pin02 09-23-2013 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1488854)
It was an observation I disagreed with.....I was told my airline has ~100 applications on file about a month ago with plans to hire 30/month. Pretty sure this is the case throughout this section of the industry.

Regionals are not filling classes right now.

Though i no longer work there, republic cant fill a class cuz no one shows up

Pilot7 09-23-2013 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by chopperleo (Post 1488768)
I was invited to an Eagle interview for tomorrow and they put me on a standby status. With only two flights a day leaving RSW, needless to say, I didn't get on. The lady at the gate told me they were overbooked by 4 and the next flight in the afternoon was worse. She advised me not even to wait around. Anyone else ever experience this?? I tried to get a hold of recruiting but no answer. I sent an email so I hope they respond. IF they reschedule, I am afraid it will be during the class I already have scheduled with PSA. I'm glad I am already hired but was looking forward to the Eagle interview for, at minimum, the experience.


Did you ever hear anything back from them?

What 09-23-2013 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1488798)
They actually did You a favor by not making the flight. Good luck getting a hold of recruiting, they guy in charge is gone for greener pastures,( wonder why) they are currently looking for a CA to fill his shoes.

Where did he go? And did you expect him to sit around a regional. he is a young guy who went after career progression. You stayed, most of us won't.

JohnnyG 09-23-2013 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1488854)
It was an observation I disagreed with.....I was told my airline has ~100 applications on file about a month ago with plans to hire 30/month. Pretty sure this is the case throughout this section of the industry.

Regionals are not filling classes right now.


That's the problem right there. You and many others have become the conduit for a lie. I doubt any turbine part 121 operator has ever had 100 resumes on file. Don't spread misinformation.

None of them are having trouble filling classes.

Keep telling yourself these things over and over again until you realize how foolish they sound.

Jetdriver7 09-23-2013 11:53 AM

Eagle sure is having trouble. They haven't come close to their target numbers for the year that they publically announced.

JohnnyG 09-23-2013 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Jetdriver7 (Post 1488931)
Eagle sure is having trouble. They haven't come close to their target numbers for the year that they publically announced.

Maybe because they stopped hiring for a long time? What do yoi think? would that do it? I doubt they can hire 600 if they have to stop because they are overmanned.


They wouldn't be walking people rudely out of interviews if they had no problems.

JohnnyG 09-23-2013 12:00 PM

"But my friend who works at mesagopublic told me they had no one show up to a turboprop class earlier this year"


It's never happened and never will, especially when so many pilots are underemployed.

FLYZERG 09-23-2013 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1488929)
I doubt any turbine part 121 operator has ever had 100 resumes on file.

You doubt Skywest, Expressjet or Compass has 100 resumes on file?

JohnnyG 09-23-2013 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by FLYZERG (Post 1488960)
You doubt Skywest, Expressjet or Compass has 100 resumes on file?

LESS than.

USMCFLYR 09-23-2013 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1488929)
That's the problem right there. You and many others have become the conduit for a lie. I doubt any turbine part 121 operator has ever had 100 resumes on file. Don't spread misinformation.

None of them are having trouble filling classes.

Keep telling yourself these things over and over again until you realize how foolish they sound.

I must be MISunderstanding what you meant by the bolded above.
You doubt that ANY P121 turbine operator has ever had 100 resumes on file?
So......Delta - a P121 turbine opeartor - has never had 100 resumes on file?
Or are you trying to limit the statement to Regionals - of which then you'd say that SkyWest has never had 100 resumes on file either?

FlyerJosh 09-23-2013 01:06 PM

While they aren't having trouble finding people to interview, the average candidate in the pool has dropped in experience. In addition, many applicants are interviewing at multiple regional carriers at the same time.

I know for a fact that companies are having no-show/no-calls on the first day of indoc. Not necessarily due to lack to available pilots, but more because pilots are again able to be a bit more discriminating in who they work for.

Geardownflaps30 09-23-2013 01:52 PM

To the original poster:

I'm sorry you didn't make your flight and I'm sorry for some of the responses that you received on here.

Unfortunately standby status for your flight to interview is more common than most of the posters will have you believe. I have been in this industry for 14 years; I've interviewed at many airlines and have worked at 3. NEVER ONCE was I ever flown to my interview positive space. It was ALWAYS on standby. That being said, if you knew that there were only 2 flights from RSW, I personally would've driven to Miami to have a better chance of getting to the interview and would've told the recruiter to book me that way. I know it doesn't help you but I've driven as far as 275 mi to an airport to get on a flt stdby to my interview.

The point of which is, just like commuting in this business you must plan and think ahead to get yourself where you need to be and when.

Tuck this into your bag of learning experiences, plan ahead next time and hopefully they will contact you for another opportunity.

Good luck with whatever regional you ultimately and up at and enjoy your training!

"Welcome Aboard!"

lolwut 09-23-2013 01:58 PM

You already have a class date at one regional set up. Why bother dealing with another regional who runs such a crappy operation that even though they're an airline, can't get you to their interview?

chopperleo 09-23-2013 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by TheFly (Post 1488843)
Just curious, how long before the flight did you arrive?

I was there 3 hours in advance.

chopperleo 09-23-2013 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1488990)
To the original poster:

I'm sorry you didn't make your flight and I'm sorry for some of the responses that you received on here.

Unfortunately standby status for your flight to interview is more common than most of the posters will have you believe. I have been in this industry for 14 years; I've interviewed at many airlines and have worked at 3. NEVER ONCE was I ever flown to my interview positive space. It was ALWAYS on standby. That being said, if you knew that there were only 2 flights from RSW, I personally would've driven to Miami to have a better chance of getting to the interview and would've told the recruiter to book me that way. I know it doesn't help you but I've driven as far as 275 mi to an airport to get on a flt stdby to my interview.

The point of which is, just like commuting in this business you must plan and think ahead to get yourself where you need to be and when.

Tuck this into your bag of learning experiences, plan ahead next time and hopefully they will contact you for another opportunity.

Good luck with whatever regional you ultimately and up at and enjoy your training!

"Welcome Aboard!"

Thanks for the response. I am new to all this so I am guilty of being a little ignorant on how to properly plan. In all fairness, I did not know there were only two flights daily from RSW to DFW, I found that out today. I spoke to the chief pilot today and he did confirm that they are NOT authorized to place applicants on positive space and he apologized. They offered a new interview date for next week but they did inform me that I would be chancing it again as that flight is already looking full one week out. After hearing that, I just respectfully declined the offer to interview and thanked them for the opportunity. I feel lucky and excited to be hired and start class on the 7th!!!

Geardownflaps30 09-23-2013 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by chopperleo (Post 1489054)
Thanks for the response. I am new to all this so I am guilty of being a little ignorant on how to properly plan. In all fairness, I did not know there were only two flights daily from RSW to DFW, I found that out today. I spoke to the chief pilot today and he did confirm that they are NOT authorized to place applicants on positive space and he apologized. They offered a new interview date for next week but they did inform me that I would be chancing it again as that flight is already looking full one week out. After hearing that, I just respectfully declined the offer to interview and thanked them for the opportunity. I feel lucky and excited to be hired and start class on the 7th!!!

Very professional of you! Good Luck in your training!

JohnnyG 09-23-2013 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1488854)
It was an observation I disagreed with.....I was told my airline has ~100 applications on file about a month ago with plans to hire 30/month. Pretty sure this is the case throughout this section of the industry.

Regionals are not filling classes right now.


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1488854)
That's the problem right there. You and many others have become the conduit for a lie. I doubt any turbine part 121 operator has ever had 100 resumes on file. Don't spread misinformation.


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1488854)
I must be MISunderstanding what you meant by the bolded above.
You doubt that ANY P121 turbine operator has ever had 100 resumes on file?
So......Delta - a P121 turbine opeartor - has never had 100 resumes on file?
Or are you trying to limit the statement to Regionals - of which then you'd say that SkyWest has never had 100 resumes on file either?

Here's the full chain of replies, USMCFLYR. You called the wrong dude out. I said I doubted this, and I posted clarification right around when you replied to me. None of these guys will ever have less than 100 applications on file.

JamesNoBrakes 09-23-2013 09:29 PM

I've been flown positive space to the interviews I did (outside of commercial flying, but still in aviation), except for the government. The taxpayers got a break on that one :) Heck, one even offered to fly me to where I could drive in 2 hrs.

Dirtrider101 09-23-2013 10:28 PM

<100 resumes on file? - No way...


... regionals having trouble filling classes with qualified applicants from those resumes on file? - I'd definitely say yes

yimke 09-24-2013 04:23 AM

XJT positive spaced when I got hired. I had a friend who got standby on RAH for an interview and couldn't make it. Called recruiters and they said they would call him for another date. Never did, even after calling him back.

I believe eagle can't PS you due to the bankruptcy contract. They are probably counting pennies just like RAH. Only difference is, RAH always pinches pennies!

USMCFLYR 09-24-2013 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1489253)
Here's the full chain of replies, USMCFLYR. You called the wrong dude out. I said I doubted this, and I posted clarification right around when you replied to me. None of these guys will ever have less than 100 applications on file.

First off I didn't call you out.
Your sentence was unclear to me and I had been following the conversation to the full extent. This is why I stated " I must be MISunderstanding what you meant by the bolded above."
I'm glad I misunderstood your post because that contention would have been ludicrous!


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