So, all that being said...any advice for me, as I am looking to start job searching for a regional in the next 6 months or so?[/QUOTE]

Start with a list of the places you are considering applying to, then do some research.
Look at their bases, are they growing or shrinking, what is their contact like, how much do they pay, how much per diem, do they offer duty rigs, min day guarantee, cancelation pay, min days off a month, commuter policy, what health insurance do they offer, are they being threatened with concessions, etc etc.

Do your homework and don't let emotions get in the way of your decision making, i.e. SJS.

You will probably narrow your search down to 3 or 4 companies. Use the rest for the interview experience.

I'd rather have the Falcon. The CRJ is a runway hog. Would have trouble getting out of some of the smaller runways the DA-20 can. Granted I loved having an apu, fms and glass cockpit, but the dirty d was more fun to fly.

jrsx99,

The most important thing is to pick a regional where you at least see some movement. The first that comes to mind is Compass. You have guaranteed Delta slots for those Compass captains, which means there will be plenty of movement from right seats to left, and newhires into right seats. You do not want to be a 6, 7, 8+ year RJ FO at a regional as is happening almost everywhere. It sucks!

Regional bases, pay, contracts, ALL of that can change overnight and therefore I wouldn't necessarily base your decision on any one factor. At a regional, movement is most important. XJT may have a great contract, but ask their late 2006 hired pilots who are still FOs just how good a contract is when they are still 7-8 year FOs makking FO wages with no TPIC time for the resume.

LOL In the Mortal Kombat days of the 90s, this was a "Finish Him!"


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[QUOTE=What;1489340]So, United is shrinking their RJ fleet in buying 30+ E-170/175s for the express carriers to fly? :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=SVTCobra;1489844]Delta will add 70 larger RJ over the next 28 months but will add 88 B717 while paring 200 ish 50 seaters. United is adding large RJs but will have to park 50 seaters. The United Scope clause is complex but it ends up being a total of 450 RJs on January 2016. They are adding 76 seaters but soon will have to start parking 50 seaters.

[QUOTE=lolwut;1489193]That was my job that was eliminated. My company that was eliminated. I'm glad that makes you happy.

[QUOTE=What;1489887]Ironic there is never a mention on how many planes a mainline carrier is planning to add until there is a thread about RJs on this forum. :rolleyes:

Oh, I know all about the STW movement. I am also very familiar with "The Truth About Profession." I have been watching this industry for quite some time now. Also, PBS's Frontline did a great documentary about the industry after Colgan 3407.

The was really was no context given in the original post w/ the picture. I completely get it, no lack of understanding on my part. However, sadly I can't say the same for the majority of my CFI co-workers.

I recently had a conversation with a co-worker about what regionals he was targeting to get on with. We both know a few people at Commutair, he stated that he really wasn't considering them, instead he wanted to focus on XJET, and RAH because "They have jets". I didn't say anything, but needles to say, I really wanted to say "Dude, ***, really?" It's a shame.

As a CFI w/ 1,200 hrs. I will be the first to admit that I absolutely have SJS. Warming the right seat of a C-172 doing touch n' gos for 6 hrs a day is really starting to wear on me. However, although I do have SJS, I won't let it get the best of me and cloud my judgement. I've made it a point to read up on current contracts, and am keeping a very close on on things now (PSA).

So, all that being said...any advice for me, as I am looking to start job searching for a regional in the next 6 months or so?[/QUOTE]

Take this advice as you will...

Go to the regional that has the most movement..IE.. The most prospects for a/c growth or seniority growth.. May not be the fastest up grade, but one that will provide you with the best QOL of life in the shortest amount of time. Of it includes being based at or very near home take it....

So much is made here of contracts, bottom feeders, *****s etc... But in reality they are all the same. They all make within a few dollars of each other, all provide about the same crappy retirement, and the same pass benefits and for the most part medical benefits"..

What they don't all provide is less time spent on reserve or desirable bases...

You'll find if you can hold a line quick or sit reserve at home your life will be infinitely more satisfying ...

One drawback about being at some regionals is the negative attitudes towards their pilots...( go jets, Mesa, silver etcetera...) but seriously what is the worst thing the pilots of other regionals going to do? Not talk to you in the Popeyes line?

Go to the regional that makes your life the easiest....

You are drinking the Richard Anderson CoolAid. If it was up to management all flying would be done by regionals.

Not all of the 50 seaters are being replaced by the 717, people need to remember the 70 76 seat RJs that are coming online as the 717 are introduced and the CRJ-200 go on vacation.

Ha, if it was up to management, all the flying would be done by the chinese. Even the regionals can't compete with $1/week sweatshop pilots!

Which is why management constantly asks for scope relief on B777s. :rolleyes:

There's no need to attack a specific ethnicity here!

How does your statement in anyway change what is replacing the 50 seater's capacity as they are being parked?

That's where mgt code shares.

Indeed, because they have their flight training + room and board paid for, and they make more than the average American SWEATSHOP regional pilot.

Do you know what's the salary level for the locals in China? First of all, the Chinese can't do all the flying that is coming to them with the amount of A/C's on order they have, places like Russia for example, the salary levels for airline pilots have gone up 400% in the past decade alone, the salaries for the Chinese pilots have also tripled with housing, school, company cars and taxes paid for them, it is not the 1980's anymore, there are no sweatshop pilots in Asia anymore:rolleyes: better inform yourself about what's happening in the global market, the pilots flying ATR's in Vietnam are making better wages than your average RJ driver in the US.....!

Dominican,

Please don't disturb there prejudices. :cool:

GF

And that's why protections exist against codeshare.

:D, LOL! So we better not discuss the Chinese corporate pilots salaries then..!

I know, I know...! It just amazes me that in an era where more information is readily available to anyone, an individual living in one of the most educated countries in the world, actually believes such nonsense.:eek:

Well gosh wally, I'll just skip right over there and get a job then!

I get what you're actually saying but sheesh. :rolleyes:

Also, I noticed no mainline guys responded to this.

I understand the need to get airline pilots in America back to the standards they ought to be living at. However, there are people's lives at stake in the conversion process. There's pain to be experienced. Less RJ's means less jobs, unfortunately. Bad? For the industry, no it's not bad. For the pilots that no longer have a job and don't get picked up by mainline, yes it's bad. Not everyone can be the best of the best and get the mainline job. Some people WON'T make it there. That is a tough thing and acting like it doesn't exist shows a little too much pride and arrogance.

But what do I know, I just fly Bonanza's for fun :rolleyes:

Yup, all being replaced by planes twice that size for the same or less pay.

So, in the effort of educating myself, where can I find information about what locals make flying for asian airlines? (Not expat contracts, mind you)

Google turns up nothing but expat contracts and an article about a guy that had to sue air china to be allowed to resign.

Check your facts...

80 CRJ900s are being allowed at the regional level to replace 300 or so CRJ200s. 88 717s at DL will be replacing the balance of the lift.

Care to rephrase?

The airplanes in the picture hold 50 passengers. I believe the MGTOW is around 52,000 lbs. So per your claim a CRJ900 holds 100 people and has a MGTOW of 104,000 lbs?


BTW, over 300 CRJ 100/200s are being replaced by 70 76 seat planes and 88 B717s.

This is purely curiosity and I'm sure I could look it up, but how many pax fit on a 717 for Delta, and is that the same amount of seats Air Tran has/had on them now or is Big D reconfiguring the interiors?

It's a brand new interior, hence the delay in service entry due to FAA certification issues with the interior.

IIRC, they seat 110 or 115.

And that is why ALPA is here to sign LOAs without your vote to slowly erode your upper end scope without your consent.

While I believe it should be up for memrat, the new LOA adds an abundance of protections that were non-existent in our current contract.