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satpak77 09-30-2013 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1493834)
1500/5=300 pilots per year

300 is .017% of the roughly 17000 regional pilots in the US. Good luck with your lottery ticket.

As to the people having good careers in aviation that's all relative. I've said it before I'm 30 years old and even that is too old for the type of airline career I wanted. Flying with 14 days off the rest of my career is not ideal no matter the monetary value of my hours flown. My goal was to doze for dollars in the right seat with 21 days off a month and realistically that's not attainable unless you get hired very young and at the beginning of a wave.

This announcement is not "bad" news but it isn't good either, this is certainly no shortage.

The career as you described it no longer exists. pilots at all carriers, even the "good" ones, work more, earn less, and have less job security than their forefathers before them.

buddies8 10-01-2013 02:44 AM

aa hiring 1500, WOW.
5 years equal 300 per.
300 per equals 150 from street, minimum 150 from eagle.
off street 750 over 5 years, WOW big news.,

Captain Tony 10-01-2013 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by JetA Heartburn (Post 1493990)
So true. And you can bet your last nickel that ALPA is fighting hard with the majors to not hire those guys because of the loss in dues.

This doesn't make sense. If anything, ALPA would be fighting to get them hired at an ALPA carrier to raise their dues and replace the retirees leaving. ALPAs finances are going to take a massive hit in the next few years as topped out pilots retire and the average pay drops. Age 65 was a windfall for them, which is why they supported it.

tom14cat14 10-01-2013 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1494136)
aa hiring 1500, WOW.
5 years equal 300 per.
300 per equals 150 from street, minimum 150 from eagle.
off street 750 over 5 years, WOW big news.,

Still better then what was hired over the last five years at AA. Of course we all wish it was more.

biigD 10-01-2013 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1494096)
The career as you described it no longer exists. pilots at all carriers, even the "good" ones, work more, earn less, and have less job security than their forefathers before them.

Yeah, seems like Bzzt spent a little too much time listening to his flight school's BS. Someone did him a big disservice. At least he's only 30 - that's not very old for a career reboot.

eaglefly 10-01-2013 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by biigD (Post 1494323)
Yeah, seems like Bzzt spent a little too much time listening to his flight school's BS. Someone did him a big disservice. At least he's only 30 - that's not very old for a career reboot.

Ah yes. The expectations were indeed crazily out of whack among the late 90's to 9/11 FNG's. Many expected to be 70-seat RJ captains at 25 driving to work in a shiny new vette. From there it was a major by 27, 757 F/O on your 30th birthday and captain by 35. The 777 left seat by 40 and then on to a 2.5 million pension to do nothing but tinker with your Baron and Extra 300 on your 60th birthday.

Airline management and the unions corrected that fantasy.......AFTER they got the needed number of idiots. :cool:

But hey, it got suckers, saps and simpletons in the door and by god, it still works today. Why just a few days ago, the same song and dance got hundreds of chumps to fleece themselves over at PSA without so much as a single encore necessary.

Dopey pilots........when will they ever learn ?

Bzzt 10-01-2013 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by biigD (Post 1494323)
Yeah, seems like Bzzt spent a little too much time listening to his flight school's BS. Someone did him a big disservice. At least he's only 30 - that's not very old for a career reboot.

Wasn't a flight school that tricked me it was my own stupidity. Never even thought about flying my whole life but after college I was looking for an easy career. I looked at only mainline details because I'm an idiot and by the time I found out about the regionals I was trapped.

Bzzt 10-01-2013 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1494136)
aa hiring 1500, WOW.
5 years equal 300 per.
300 per equals 150 from street, minimum 150 from eagle.
off street 750 over 5 years, WOW big news.,

Probably be less than 50% from eagle, they already said they'd meter the 824 flows.

buddies8 10-01-2013 12:48 PM

but they don't lose there slot. metering is minimum 20 per month by arbitrator. that's 240 per year, 150 is a non issue. be less off the street.

What 10-01-2013 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1494516)
Wasn't a flight school that tricked me it was my own stupidity. Never even thought about flying my whole life but after college I was looking for an easy career. I looked at only mainline details because I'm an idiot and by the time I found out about the regionals I was trapped.

You can always walk away.


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