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Originally Posted by slats fail
(Post 1511882)
Exactly. Regionals are already feeling the pinch. Contracts should be improving if they want to attract newhires. Pilot groups signing concessionary contracts are signing their own death certificates.
You mean like the one PSA just signed to fly the 76 seaters? |
Originally Posted by slats fail
(Post 1511882)
Exactly. Regionals are already feeling the pinch. Contracts should be improving if they want to attract newhires. Pilot groups signing concessionary contracts are signing their own death certificates.
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With 53% of the flying done by regionals today, vs. 15% in 2001, they are going to have to do something. Like many I don't believe there will be a shortage at the majors, but there should be steady hiring, and it is going to come from the regionals. The problem is the regionals have gone from a place where you spend a few years and move on to the majors, to a place where people are spending 10+ years. At that point you have to start thinking career. They are not going to be able to sell a company where you pay 100K for your training to top out at 60K on year 10 as an FO.
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Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
(Post 1511920)
With 53% of the flying done by regionals today, vs. 15% in 2001, they are going to have to do something. Like many I don't believe there will be a shortage at the majors, but there should be steady hiring, and it is going to come from the regionals. The problem is the regionals have gone from a place where you spend a few years and move on to the majors, to a place where people are spending 10+ years. At that point you have to start thinking career. They are not going to be able to sell a company where you pay 100K for your training to top out at 60K on year 10 as an FO.
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Originally Posted by Avroman
(Post 1512028)
Ha, Endeavor gives you the joy of topping out at $33K/yr. to fly a shiny new CRJ-900. :mad: And they think they will be able to staff this place :p News flash, many of the captains on the current downgrade list will never hit the line as an FO. Meanwhile more FO's are already in the 2 week countdown to freedom (no, not the airline Freedom).
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Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
(Post 1512029)
60k was a best case scenario.
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Originally Posted by Avroman
(Post 1512132)
Sadly I won't make 60K this year as a captain thanks to the concessionary contract.
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The regional shortage might be short lived. The majors have thousands of applications on file, and when the music stops, those left standing will have few choices remaining. One of them being to go to a regional.
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Originally Posted by TheFly
(Post 1512140)
The regional shortage might be short lived. The majors have thousands of applications on file, and when the music stops, those left standing will have few choices remaining. One of them being to go to a regional.
Not sure I'm following you on this one. Aren't many of those apps from folks who are currently flying for a regional ? If not, then it seems clear that they are not interested in flying for a regional. If so, the would already be doing so. |
Originally Posted by higney85
(Post 1512135)
Huh? I'm getting displaced and after 10 months at CA pay (prior to displacement) will clear over $60K. I won't say where I am and where I will end... But over 60. Talking to other folks (that I know on a first name basis as reserve CA's) they have already cleared 60k. Don't talk about the downgrade without "ducking" but it's a number that isn't realistic. A CA making reserve all year, and being downgraded by seniority on the -200 (smallest jet) had already cleared $60k.
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