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prior121 12-30-2013 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 1549869)
Quick question about regionals with approval for using iPads as EFBs. First, I am not a regional pilot yet, but I will be starting to interview in the next few months.

I have made the decision to replace my current iPad 2 with a mini. So my question is.......of the carriers that have iPad EFBs, are the minis approved for use as well? or would be purchasing a mini be a waste?

I am not basing my purchase solely on this alone, but it would be nice to know if I end up at a carrier that uses iPads.

Only the regular iPad 1-4 are approved at Mesa. Any other regional carriers actually approved right now? Haven't seen/heard of any.

IceFlash 12-30-2013 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1549947)
Only the regular iPad 1-4 are approved at Mesa. Any other regional carriers actually approved right now? Haven't seen/heard of any.

Eagle is as well. iPad 1 has recently been removed from the list, but the air should be added shortly

bruhaha 12-31-2013 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 1549869)
Quick question about regionals with approval for using iPads as EFBs. First, I am not a regional pilot yet, but I will be starting to interview in the next few months.

I have made the decision to replace my current iPad 2 with a mini. So my question is.......of the carriers that have iPad EFBs, are the minis approved for use as well? or would be purchasing a mini be a waste?

I am not basing my purchase solely on this alone, but it would be nice to know if I end up at a carrier that uses iPads.

Most of the regionals that do have an approved EFB are approved to use the larger iPad and not the mini.

If you do decide to buy an iPad to use as an EFB I personally suggest the latest iPad you can afford as the Jeppesen app actually sucks (I think it's just code bloat in the app itself) and doesn't run well on older iPads

Since you do have an iPad 2 use that as you already have it. All you need is around 2GB for the app. And just put up with the slow performance of the jepp app.

If you want a mini, buy one for your personal use.

Navmode 12-31-2013 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1549947)
Only the regular iPad 1-4 are approved at Mesa. Any other regional carriers actually approved right now? Haven't seen/heard of any.

I thought it was only 2-4

yimke 12-31-2013 05:17 AM

Which ever one doesnt give you SJS. Also, do not waste your personal money on a regional.

ja2c 12-31-2013 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by AVIATOR3 (Post 1549901)
Which regionals actually provide the iPads to each pilot ?

I know american mainline is but hadn't heard of any regionals.

Thanks

ExpressJet is currently is the testing phase and the pilot group is being told we should have them by summer. The company is providing the iPads to the pilots.

Bzzt 12-31-2013 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by ja2c (Post 1550002)
ExpressJet is currently is the testing phase and the pilot group is being told we should have them by summer. The company is providing the iPads to the pilots.

Congrats, if only 75% of this spineless Eagle group hadn't bought their own.

TI 3VOM 12-31-2013 07:44 AM

Horizon issues Ipads to all pilots. The company issued Ipad 4s back in July, and all pilots are required to have them for every flight. Most people I talk with find it more of a nuisance than helpful, since they must be charged at least 50% prior to each leg, updated prior to starting each trip, and you are not allowed to leave it 'unattended' (cant leave it in your bag in the crew room while you go find food, you are supposed to take it with you). The company still hasn't gotten the FAA approval to remove the paper manuals yet so those need to be updated and carried as well (was supposed to happen back in September and haven't heard any recent updates).

The company says you can have personal apps on the ipad (just no personal email), but there is a 'big brother' tracking software that sends data to the company on your usage, not sure exactly what or how it works, but most pilots dont put anything on the company ipad other than the required company material and carry their own personal ipad with them as well.

swampfoxviper 12-31-2013 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1549946)
Ohhhh it's such a secret!!!! Heaven forbid you spill the beans!!! No one can know!!! (Eye roll)

He's talking about Republic or uh Shuttle if not at all 3 certs.

Think he's talking about Wisconsin.. My nephew works there and mentioned this

TonyC 12-31-2013 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1549915)

From the FAA's EFB approval guidance:



4-1644 HARDWARE SPECIFICATIONS—CLASS 1 AND CLASS 2 EFBs.

... The screen must be large enough to show an entire instrument approach procedure (IAP) chart at once with the equivalent degree of legibility and clarity as a paper chart.


Now, some minis might "slip through" the approval process, but beware, the intent of the EFB is to display the chart at the same size as the regular Jep/Noaa charts. The mini doesn't do that.



I didn't read "same size" in the FAA guidance you quoted.


If it's as legible and clear, it appears to meet that specification.






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