What will the AE MEC Board do Jan 2, 2014
 

I use January 2nd as the starting point.

Thread is in reference to amr eagle

do you want a vote from non-eagle folks?

Sorry, yes it is in reference to american eagle.
if a moderator can add american eagle to thread title it will be appreciated since I cant.

Looks like they want to negotiate


Dear American Eagle Team:

American Eagle Airlines experienced a year of change in 2013. Executive Airlines ceased flying operations as we returned the last of our turboprop fleet. American Airlines began rebranding our aircraft in a new livery for the first time since the inception of the Eagle brand, meanwhile, additional regional carriers began flying under the American Eagle brand. Our corporate parent, AMR Corporation, merged with US Airways Group and emerged from bankruptcy to form American Airlines Group. I could list more changes, but the point has been made – there was a lot of change for our company and our people.

Looking forward to 2014, there will be both change and opportunity. We will soon unveil a new name and identity for our company. This will allow us to distinguish ourselves from the other American Eagle-branded carriers, with our own name and culture. I am excited to share this with you in the next few weeks. American Eagle will still be the regional brand of American Airlines, just like Delta Connection or United Express.

On the opportunity front, I mentioned in a recent Special Eaglewire that we are in talks with ALPA, the union that represents our pilots at Eagle, about changes to their contract. If Eagle is able to reach an agreement with ALPA, it will put our airline on a sure path to competitiveness with other regional carriers and guarantee us 60 new Embraer 175 aircraft beginning in 2015. Cost competitiveness also will make us a legitimate contender for any future American option aircraft. American has secured a similar arrangement from US Airways subsidiary PSA, and Delta has a similar arrangement with its wholly owned subsidiary, Endeavor.

On Jan. 2, Eagle’s pilot leadership, the ALPA Master Executive Council (MEC) will decide if and how to formally respond to the company’s proposal.

The company, for its part, has scheduled negotiations to take place between Jan. 3 and Jan. 10. If a Tentative Agreement (TA) has been reached between Eagle and our pilots by Jan. 10, it will be announced that Eagle will be getting the E175s, pending a successful outcome of a ratification vote. If there is no TA by that date, American’s management team will start considering other options with respect to cost-competitive placement of the E175 aircraft.

I want you to know I am confident that both the Eagle team and the ALPA leadership team are committed to reaching an agreement. The prospect of announcing a new name and a new fleet is very exciting and I look forward to getting it done.

Thanks for all that you do for our airline and our passengers!

Happy New Year.

well for my part as an eagle pilot, they management have already decided where to place these aircraft. They can start as soon as they like. I am a NO vote. They will just come back in six months and say do the same as they just did after the company signed an 8 year concession contract.

Burn it down.

I have some 89 octane to help it light up.

I can't imagine pilots here selling our for 60 guaranteed aircraft. I'm not sure how many aircraft are left at Eagle but 60 is a lot less than what we currently have. Taking huge concessions so they can shrink the company just doesn't make any sense.

To this point I've only heard of 2 yes voters and I haven't personally encountered any. It will take time to wind us down, most of us will find jobs elsewhere, I don't see a downside to telling management to pound sand.

I'm so beyond disgusted with this entire proposal it makes me sick. Just goes to show how Us Air management is a group of animals. This shouldn't even get to a vote, and if it does I lose what very little hope I have left for our elected reps, I won't work for any less than I already do and am not afraid to walk away.

That email looks exactly like the one we got from our MEC at PSA

The thing he copy pasted was a special Eaglewire from the company president Pedro Fabregas, not the MEC.

This will not go to a vote in its present form.

i agree with you, let them go pound sand with there pri cks.

However, something slightly less bad will go to vote. If it ain't a raise, its a no vote.

Rumor has it APA will be also attending tomorrow's meeting. I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it does make you go "hmmmmm... ."

They're idea is good but the company will never go for it.

Agreed, but it's nice to see some collaboration and forward thinking. All pilot groups need to join forces right now, and hopefully this is a start.

it is in APA's best interest for eagle 1. not dissappear, 2. not get any pay cuts, 3. be a low baller. because there turn is coming up for contract negotiations. if it is doubly cheaper here to run a e175 versus aa e190 then where do you think that e190 flying is going to go to. besides there is psa for now.

all american feeders will have to match psa numbers.

parker (the putts) wants these deals done quick because his non owned feed contracts are eating him up and wants those contracts subsidized by the owned feeders.

With the way Moak-the-Joke treated the Eagle guys earlier this year; I wouldn't be surprised to see 2700 new APA members soon.

I wish, we could get rid of ALPA and get on with APA.

But the way I see things, I can't keep my hopes up because we keep getting beat up. :(

+1. I don't know why you regional guys put up with ALPA. Join APA and heck at this point even a janitorial union would be better.

At least a janitorial union would stand their ground for the members.

Any word yet on the outcome?

"The parent company of American Airlines, which is in the midst of a federal lawsuit seeking to block its proposed merger with US Airways, posted a profit of $289 million in the third quarter."
-USA Today Oct 17 2013

That is a quote regarding the 2013 Q3 results. How can they possibly ask for concessions when they are making $289,000,000 dollars over 3 months?? Let that number sink in. What a bunch of greedy a$$ holes in management. It's disgraceful that they have the nerve to ask Eagle to take a concession. I'm offended and I don't even work there. If anyone takes a concession right now then there is no hope. I hope the MECs protect y'all and tell them to go pound sand. At SkyWest the rumors are that we are about to get offered raises. Everyone else should too.

Brown Streak already did. Every management wont stop until you are "competitive" with Brown Streak. No hope.. Move along now.. nothing to to see here.

Looks like the MEC and the company haven't changed their "keep the pilots in the dark" policy.

Sarcasm or legit?

MEC votes to negotiate
 

11-0 voted to present counter proposal to MEC

Counter with pay raises

Update for those interested,

I was in attendance for most of the MEC meeting yesterday afternoon. The Company wanted to talk hard numbers with the MEC and most if the company briefing was under executive session, behind close doors. Our union has decided to peruse a counter proposal to the company, late last night and today they will be meeting to decide exactly how to counter the company's proposal. The message from the MEC is clear, they are going to rush and their current demands and proposal is unacceptable. The MEC places some value to the company's enhanced flow but not to the point the company does as we currently have agreements in place that if executed as agreed by the company compare to what it's being offer with the exception of the most junior 100 pilots and any new hires. The current flow proposal benefits management as a way to attract new hire as most of us on property have a similar agreement. The guarantee of 60 airplanes is not even close as it only guarantees jobs for less than 700 pilots. The MEC still stands strong that the company is planing on metering the 824 and that is against the agreement as they have demonstrated the ability to flow more than 20 as they are offering it in exchange of concessions. The MEC will continue to peruse the grievance filed and await the interpretation of the arbitrator.

Pedro address everyone and mentioned that the pilots are not the only group making changes as they cut close to 70 management positions last month... Take that for what is worth. The MEC wants the company to provide concrete numbers why the pilots must take cuts while our peers at compass got raises and the current proposal at EXJ is better than what we currently have and they want us to go lower. Our MEC is in talks with RAH and they are awaiting what happens at AE, but the current proposal. So we have an idea of what is being offered. Our MEC has stated that they won't due what PSA MEC did and rush with no substantial numbers just for a few airplanes written on a piece of paper.

The meeting continued into the night and they will be back today. There was no alpa national there. The reason there have been no updates is because the meeting is on going but I would presume that we will hear official updates sometime in the next 24 hrs.

Well that's unfortunate. No APA and the mystery player appears to have been RAH. Compass it is I guess.

I am sorry I led you to believe that RAH was there, they weren't. Our guys are in talks with their union and are sharing information but outside of ALpA local and the top three AE managers there was no one in attendance outside of that. APA is supposed to attend today for what I was told, yesterday was the company putting a dog and pony show by the company. The meat and tatters of the meeting is today.

It was decided that we will countered but the MEC is waiting on numbers and the numbers guy in the management side was there yesterday so the MEC might have gotten some of their answers, today is when they will build/finalize the response to management. It could take longer as well dependent on what happened last night. Our guys are willing to fight and are not looking for the last games.

As the pilot said to center... "seyuhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

That sounds so retarded when people do that.

That's why I said it to you...

Not sure why. If APA isn't in on the eventual deal we get with the company there is no reason to stay here. I'm still holding out hope something will get done but it doesn't look good. Everyone's circumstances are different but I don't live near an Eagle base anymore and I am not senior enough to expect an upgrade in the relatively near future unless we stay the same size.

Without APA Compass is a legitimate lateral move.

There was no need for APA to be there yesterday as the main agenda yesterday was the company (AE) top execs making a visit and making a case why the eagle pilots should consider negotiating with them. Today on the other hand, the MEC delivered a set of request to the company and the meeting today is about how to respond to management as far as what to proposal to pitch with, APA yesterday would have been there and not been able to do anything as the AA managers weren't there it was just the AE management.

Thats true, the APA proposal is a pipe dream though. It's a cool idea but never going to happen.