Yes, a large percentage of the pie-eyed pilots there would go for a shiny candy wrapper (shiny jets) oblivious to the fact the candy tastes like **** (bottom-tier pay/bennies).

Heck, even some the senior pilots there who know better like RJ are ready to lick the AIP because they think the center of the tootsie pop will taste good at least for him.

I say at least half have their tongues out ready to go and that will be enough.

Voting No regardless of airframe total.

I don't think it wil happen, because this is all fear mongering, but the best deal is the 60% flow that kicks in when they start furloughing.

Student loans?
 

So Envoy wants to cap FO pay at 4 yrs...? Is this for all FOs or just new hires? Is it a B-Scale tied to recovering (hypothetical) training funds or some sort of increased student loan funding that the airlines know is going to have to happen soon? An indentured servant type deal? Or are they just raping and pillaging?

FOs on property get pay freeze wherever they are above 4th year. Same deal as PSA.

we already have that in our last contract. Vote NO

That us what he is referring to, that we are supposed to have 50% of new hire slots, if eagle has staffing issues they can meter to 20 pilots a month and if there is a surplus eagle gets a minimum of 60% of class slots at AA.

Loans
 

What new loan programs? I missed this one on what sounds like ad-initio.
Is that it? I saw some loosely worded program descriptions, but nothing what you reffered to.
Just wondering if you speculated or something is brewing. I really hope they don't do this because it would mean that airlines would take only from their respective programs.

As a SouthFlorida native eagle was my top choice. Even though I now fly out of my home town I still see eagle as an option since commuting on FO pay is horrible. Does anyone think that eagle will lose their MIA base if they don't sign this concessionary contract. I know that base has a lot of reserves so what should a junior guy expect to fly there a month since you will need 2000 hours with the company to qualify for the new AA preferential hiring.

WRONG PAL: 170 airframes on property NOT 170 new airframes
Parker is banking on idiots like this reading info INTO statements made through Eagle wire (inter company communication) and NOT through our elected MEC.

Boom, spot on. This game was played before and the company can include parked airplanes. You need to see all the improvements are recruiting tools, this is all coming regardless, they have zero choice, unless they can replace or no longer need our 220 hulls in about 18 months, otherwise they will be cx almost half our flights daily, that's not including the hysteria when people truly feel we are being com aired.