Eagle Ipad
 

I want to confirm that we can carry the IPAD AIR, this one
https://explore.t-mobile.com/ipad-air

And can someone give me the link to a mount and battery, smallest mount possible.

Thanks

Eagle Ipad
 

Yes ipad air is now fully approved.

Eagle Ipad
 

Only one type if mount is allowed. Check the kitbag page on jetnet. Battery specs are there too.

Thanks......

one last question, I know we need iPad, the extra battery, the mount, do we need a quick charger also? And if so which one, I do not see anything about It.

Eagle Ipad
 

No to the quick charger. You will love the EFB, it is amazing!!!!

Eagle Ipad
 

So you guys purchase an ipad and the company allows it to be your EFB?

Yeah it's an absolute joke, all costs are on the pilot.

Yeah, complete rip off. I swore I'd be the last, but now I'm feeling like the old guy, without one

I'm still holding strong carrying my kit bag and all the manuals.

Wait, Eagle is approved for ipad use, but the pilot has to buy their own?

:eek:



-Posted with a company-issued ipad. :D

I hear ya, I stopped myself from making the purchase. I saw it this way, everything I have is android, so if I bought an ipad it would be just work, and that would be like giving the company 600.00. So I guess it's back to carrying my heavy lude flight bag. Damn. But I'm happy I convinced myself not to buy it.

Eagle Ipad
 

Can't believe they don't supply it.
Our co. supplied them simply based on the fuel saving, not to mention all of the company propaganda they can push out via email.

They gave some BS reason when we cited the fuel savings. Something about AA pays for the fuel and Eagle wouldnt see any savings so none to pass along to the pilots.

I still carry around my 40lbs of paper!

With the way we are treated around here this POS company is lucky we still even show up to work on a regular basis. I have an iPad which is perfectly capable but under no circumstances will it will be used for their benefit.

LOL, this is the most ludicrous thinking. "Ill show the company that I won't participate on the electronic flight bag."

Keep wasting your time doing those revisions. BTW how was Rev 5?

Wow. Even crappy Republic is buying iPads for all.

Rev 5 was 2 pages in the airport directory, it took me a minute at cruise. I also have an iPad that I could use for the program but I refuse to buy the mount and battery.

As a side note, I wonder what the implications are if something happens related during the flight and you are using your own personal Ipad as an EFB. Does the company now have the right to subpoena/take your personal tablet for investigative purposes?

When your IPad inevitably breaks or is stolen and you are forced to buy a new one at your own expense my paper binders will still be going strong...

That and also, what if the iPad gets broken? Is the pilot willing to pay $500 more for a new iPad?

I'm so sick of this argument. Folks, this is VOLUNTARY program. You are not being FORCED to do anything. The Company will either provide an iPad Jepp subscription, or paper charts. Most of those in the program already had an iPad, very few went out and bought them solely for this purpose. If my personal iPad breaks or is stolen, I will repair or replace it, regardless of whether I not I use it for work. Same goes for my phone, my computer, or any other electronic device I have. If for some reason I could not afford to fix it, I would go to the CP office and be issued a set of paper plates. Problem solved.

Now if the company REQUIRED pilots to carry iPads, like most other airlines that have them, they damn well better provide them. But again, this is a VOLUNTARY program. Please stop complaining about those who are able to take advantage of it and make their lives easier. We have much bigger fish to fry at this point.

The reason they're able to keep this a voluntary program as you say is because so many of our pilots went out and footed the bill for the mounts, batteries, and iPads. If the opt in rate had been very small they may have considered making it mandatory.

I'm not posing an argument... My personal choice is to not incur expenses of my own for a program which the company has stated is a cost saving measure for themselves. Unlike RJ Pilot I'm not so pathetic as to judge a pilots decision to participate or not.

My relationship with this company is purely quid pro quo. If RJ Pilot thinks my goal in not participating in the efb thing is to 'help shut the place down' then his head is shoved further up the dark end than I've previously realized...

Did some more bolding for you. Last I checked, there aren't many, if any at all, REGIONAL airlines that allow pilot's to use iPads, let alone provide them. The company doesn't believe the savings are worth the cost, otherwise they would do it. Simple as that. Again, no one is forcing you to buy an iPad, so I don't understand why some lash out at people who do have them as "company sympathizers" because they elected to make their lives easier.

Fair enough, and understood.

If my iPad breaks, Ill simply buy another one. In fact, I'm buying the AIR this week since its officially approved.

Actually we're one of the few airlines who allows them yet doesn't provide them.

The only other REGIONAL airline that allows them is Mesa. They do NOT provide them, the program is voluntary, as is ours. Many mainline airlines are providing them to there pilots, but they have much larger economies of scale and stand to save a substantially larger amount of money than a small, or even large, regional airline.

But if you evidence to the contrary, please provide me with the list of regional airlines that provide them and I'll admit I was wrong.

Last I checked Horizon had company issued iPads.

I guess if your personal ipad breaks you go back to charts. Lol

I still would have more concerns about the company somehow making a claim that they have the right to access your personal tablet if heaven forbid something goes wrong while your using it on duty. Since the software is essentially purchased and owned by eagle. I don't think its an issue if you use the ipad solely as an EFB and have no personal data on it.

I don't know anyone at Horizon so I can neither confirm nor deny, but if it's true than I am wrong. However, you've come up with one regional airline, and I came up with another that allows them but doesn't provide them. No others that I am aware of even allow them. So I guess we are both wrong to a point.

Look at it this way: You have an iPad already. The company allows its use but you must provide an approved mount and battery. Said equipment will run you around $150. May I ask you what the average price is that people spend on a kitbag? That was my choice, new kitbag, or equipment that allows me to use my iPad and no longer have to deal with filing revisions or worry about being current. Same cost, one has distinct advantages over the other. It's a no brainer. I wouldn't be proving anything to the company or anyone else by continuing to use paper.

I don't understand this argument either. What personal data do you have on your iPad that you are worried about your company seeing? They already have your name, address, phone number, social security number, birth date, and banking information (you do have direct deposit, right?) Unless you are doing something that you shouldn't be doing anyway, what information could be on your iPad that you would worry about your company seeing? If they would like to see pictures of my kids or how many Angry Birds levels I have finished, they can have at it. What use is that stuff to them?

There are people at my company with the same "holding out" attitude. News flash: ipad jepp subscriptions cost MORE than paper. You're not doing the company any favors by switching to an ipad; only saving yourself time.

This way they're being forced to continue both subscriptions.

As to the argument that Mesa has the program but doesn't provide it. I'm glad we're now comparing ourselves to Mesa and using that as a positive comparison in your favor. I know Eagle is a bottom of the barrel regional now, but I figured we were at least slightly better than Mesa still.

I never said anything negative or positive about either company. I was merely making a statement based on the fact that both companies allow ipad use.

That part wasn't really directed at you, I was just too lazy to direct it at v1.

...Edited...

Now you're deflecting. I never made any comparisons between Eagle and Mesa. You stated that many airlines provide them to pilots and Eagle is one of the few that does not. I simply stated that the only other regional out there that even allows iPads is Mesa, and the program is voluntary. You stated that Horizon provides them to pilots. I am admitting I was wrong and didn't know that. The simple fact is that SkyWest, Expressjet, ASA, Compass, TSA, Republic, GoJets, PSA, Endeavor, Piedmont, Commutair, or any other regional I may have missed, do not provide NOR allow the the use of iPads. What is so hard to understand about that?

There really isn't an argument here, you think it's ok that the company doesn't provide the equipment I think it's ridiculous. I don't think any less of you for using the iPad I just won't personally do it until they provide all the equipment.