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rickair7777 02-14-2014 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by swamp (Post 1581660)
Hope your right but he is still on our latest seniority list that came out one month ago.


Hmm. The case might have got tossed because of the sketchy circumstances with the guy who dimed him out

But even if he was acquitted or not tried you can normally still fire someone for missing work over something like this...presumably he was absent for a while without bail.

Salukipilot4590 02-14-2014 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1581869)
even if he was acquitted or not tried you can normally still fire someone for missing work over something like this...presumably he was absent for a while without bail.

You can?

Not trying to stray away from this evenings circlejerk but do you think that's right?

USMCFLYR 02-15-2014 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 1581978)
You can?

Not trying to stray away from this evenings circlejerk but do you think that's right?

I just read in our HR provided training and standards of conduct that sitting in jail is counted as AWOL time (yes - they actually still use that term). I'm not sure if the first order penalty is removal, but it was certainly possible by the third time.

E2CMaster 02-15-2014 05:44 AM

My current employer will fire you for missing work if you are in jail. It's not uncommon.

Heck, they tried to fire a guy who was in the hospital because hit a bear on the way to work.

JamesNoBrakes 02-15-2014 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by E2CMaster (Post 1582054)

Heck, they tried to fire a guy who was in the hospital because hit a bear on the way to work.

I bet that went over well. I'd never want to work for any organization that made those kinds of decisions or treated people like that.

E2CMaster 02-15-2014 07:43 AM

Why do you think I've been trying to get a new job?

I've had 4 days off since October, on duty 12-18 hours day.

And no, none of them were Thanksgiving, Christmas or New Years.

E2CMaster 02-15-2014 07:44 AM

Sad part is this company used to be run by a very famous pilot.

Sadly, Mr. Hughes has been dead for a very long time.

rickair7777 02-15-2014 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 1581978)
You can?

Not trying to stray away from this evenings circlejerk but do you think that's right?


Absolutely, and I have...twice.

Unless there are some union provisions to the contrary you are not obligated to give someone an unplanned, spur-of-the-moment LOA because they somehow ended up in jail. It's not like jury or military duty...you can simply fire them for not coming to work after X number of days (like anyone else who no-showed).

There is a certain segment of society who have a bail-bondsmen on speed-dial, but I always held my employees to a higher standard of behavior. You can also easily fire someone (caveat for possible union provisions) who brings public discredit on the company...murder, rape, kidnapping, child sex abuse, etc all meet that standard in the eyes of a reasonable person. You can expect your employees to conduct their private lives in such a manner as to avoid these sorts of legal entanglements. Private behavior is their business but once it hits the police blotter and local news it's no longer private.

JamesNoBrakes 02-15-2014 08:44 AM

Ok, what about wrongful imprisonment, detaining and the such?

Salukipilot4590 02-15-2014 08:46 AM

Innocent until proven guilty must not exist in the corporate world. I know I'm young but that doesn't sound right.


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