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Past V1 02-17-2014 07:18 AM

New email from Lee Moak
 
I give him 90 days to make significant visible changes. If I see nothing but emails, youtube videos, silly meetings and no measurable changes...then I'm done with you Mr. Moak.

So stop spending all your time making videos and writing emails and get to work. Your time is ticking...

The next update I want from you is regional change updates and securing the new minimums for hiring and rest rules. That's it...

I got the previous ALPA email that stated there was no pilot shortage, just a shortage of pilots that don't want to work for bottom dollar. I GET IT...I didn't need an additional video to explain that...

Stop with show and get to work...

lolwut 02-17-2014 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Past V1 (Post 1583471)
I give him 90 days to make significant visible changes. If I see nothing but emails, youtube videos, silly meetings and no measurable changes...then I'm done with you Mr. Moak.

So stop spending all your time making videos and writing emails and get to work. Your time is ticking...

The next update I want from you is regional change updates and securing the new minimums for hiring and rest rules. That's it...

I got the previous ALPA email that stated there was no pilot shortage, just a shortage of pilots that don't want to work for bottom dollar. I GET IT...I didn't need an additional video to explain that...

Stop with show and get to work...

Why give him any more time? Just ask yourself... is your section of the industry better off today than it was when he came into office?

exwaterski 02-17-2014 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by BE19Pilot (Post 1583468)
I think you're really onto something with your supposition about waiting for government intervention. There is enough momentum now that the balance of power is shifting toward the concerns of regional pilots that belong to ALPA. ALPA has been doing the same thing as the industry, kicking the can down the road and not confronting the personnel challenges facing the airline industry.

Spot on. However I don't think the government will be as receptive to intervening as everyone seems to think. The FAA is not about to repeal their own rule and as far as the ATP goes I don't see congress repealing the law anytime soon no matter how hard the RAA kicks and screams. To quote BB himself any changes to the law will be years down the road. The jig is up and they know it that is why the rumored Republic TA contains significant raises for First Officers. It might take some time to turn this ship around but for once at least we're all pulling in the same direction. Republic has a rare opportunity to do what Comair tried years ago that is raise the compensation bar for everyone. With the votes at ExpressJet and Eagle, new aircraft orders on the way, and a massive pilot shortage, we could not possibly have more leverage. All it takes is just a little backbone and it's amazing what you can achieve. It seems in the media at least Wall Street has already recognized that salaries are going to have to increase but that doesn't mean they're going to go down without a fight. We have them on the ropes now it's time for the pilots of RAH to deliver the knockout punch.

hockeypilot44 02-17-2014 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1583227)
Whatever, where was this when concessions were forced down our throat?

This is nothing more than political. National "endorsed" our TA no doubt.

No one forced anything on you. You could have said no. Take some responsibility.

block30 02-17-2014 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by exwaterski (Post 1583482)
Spot on. However I don't think the government will be as receptive to intervening as everyone seems to think. The FAA is not about to repeal their own rule and as far as the ATP goes I don't see congress repealing the law anytime soon no matter how hard the RAA kicks and screams. To quote BB himself any changes to the law will be years down the road. The jig is up and they know it that is why the rumored Republic TA contains significant raises for First Officers. It might take some time to turn this ship around but for once at least we're all pulling in the same direction. Republic has a rare opportunity to do what Comair tried years ago that is raise the compensation bar for everyone. With the votes at ExpressJet and Eagle, new aircraft orders on the way, and a massive pilot shortage, we could not possibly have more leverage. All it takes is just a little backbone and it's amazing what you can achieve. It seems in the media at least Wall Street has already recognized that salaries are going to have to increase but that doesn't mean they're going to go down without a fight. We have them on the ropes now it's time for the pilots of RAH to deliver the knockout punch.

I swear I just read that there is traction in the United States towards the Multi Crew License. I know Canada just passed something like that; Canada Adopts Multi-Crew Pilot License - AVweb flash Article

However, I don't think I'm confusing myself with the Canadian news.... I am kicking myself for not saving that article or memo I read!!

pagey 02-17-2014 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1583486)
No one forced anything on you. You could have said no. Take some responsibility.

I did say no....Thanks for the advice.

Take your nonsense elsewhere.

hockeypilot44 02-17-2014 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1583501)
I did say no....Thanks for the advice.

Take your nonsense elsewhere.

You guys made your ****ty job more ****ty, then blame everyone but yourselves. You should have made a stand for the profession as a group. Your job wasn't even worth saving. It is a stepping stone job that should have been sacrificed for the profession. I blame ALPA for this one also. We need to accept that sacrifices need to be made for the profession.

pagey 02-17-2014 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1583506)
You guys made your ****ty job more ****ty, then blame everyone but yourselves. You should have made a stand for the profession as a group. Your job wasn't even worth saving. It is a stepping stone job that should have been sacrificed for the profession. I blame ALPA for this one also. We need to accept that sacrifices need to be made for the profession.

This is one of the more arrogant posts I've read in a while.

Where do you work?

JamesNoBrakes 02-17-2014 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1583506)
Your job wasn't even worth saving. It is a stepping stone job that should have been sacrificed for the profession. I blame ALPA for this one also. We need to accept that sacrifices need to be made for the profession.

I remember when that used to be true and regionals were less than half the traffic. Thing is, that's no longer true. If what you said was correct, we wouldn't have 7 and 10 year regional pilots like we do right now. They would have spent 1-2 years and "moved on", like the recruiters and colleges told them. Bottom line, that "model" is broken, it hasn't worked like that in years. You need to face reality.

seafeye 02-17-2014 10:30 AM

Scott Kirby (CFO us airways) is famous for saying that regional airlines were never meant to be career places.
Well my thoughts is that the above is true. Up until management placed mainline size airplanes at regional airlines.
What he is really saying is that in order to make him more money. More and more mainline size aircraft have to be flown at B scale prices.


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