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Packrat 02-27-2014 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by JetRage (Post 1591523)
Packrat didn't understand that the post was about street captains and not about single-pilot operations.

If you can't hire F/Os, why would you hire street Captains. And where would you get them anyway?

aviatorhi 02-27-2014 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1591595)
If you can't hire F/Os, why would you hire street Captains. And where would you get them anyway?

From people who have the time but not the will to be on food stamps.

I would be interested in some time on a "modern" airplane to check off a box on certain applications. I have, however, zero, nill, none, no interest in slaving at regional FO wages to get it. It sounds like, unless many of the current CAs and FOs are hovered up to the majors that this won't be an option.

pete2800 02-27-2014 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1591595)
If you can't hire F/Os, why would you hire street Captains. And where would you get them anyway?

Where would you get them? There are plenty of high-time regional FO's who are still looking at quite a while before they can upgrade. I'd imagine a Captain seat would look pretty attractive, as long as it came with a Captain paycheck.

Joachim 02-27-2014 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1591595)
If you can't hire F/Os, why would you hire street Captains. And where would you get them anyway?

Because you can start them at year one pay while bypassing qualified FO's just like Go-Jet did.

WAVIT Inbound 02-27-2014 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1591609)
From people who have the time but not the will to be on food stamps.

I would be interested in some time on a "modern" airplane to check off a box on certain applications. I have, however, zero, nill, none, no interest in slaving at regional FO wages to get it. It sounds like, unless many of the current CAs and FOs are hovered up to the majors that this won't be an option.


If you're encouraging off the street captain hiring and by passing current and qualified first officer's you're insane.

No one and I mean no one would fly with you. You would be looked at as the scum of the industry. I would call in before I flew with such a "street captain" and it wouldn't be sick. It would be due to it being impossible to possibly have a safe flight deck with that captain.

aviatorhi 02-27-2014 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 1591625)
If you're encouraging off the street captain hiring and by passing current and qualified first officer's you're insane.

No one and I mean no one would fly with you. You would be looked at as the scum of the industry. I would call in before I flew with such a "street captain" and it wouldn't be sick. It would be due to it being impossible to possibly have a safe flight deck with that captain.

Did you bother to read what I said or are you just rage posting like the average regional pilot?


It sounds like, unless many of the current CAs and FOs are hovered up to the majors that this won't be an option.

WAVIT Inbound 02-27-2014 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1591632)
Did you bother to read what I said or are you just rage posting the average regional pilot?

Actually not raging at all. I am merely stating that if that happened that would be the result. It would not be pretty.

And yes I did miss that statement. I was asking if that's what you meant not trying to accuse per say. I apologize if it came off that way.

Navmode 02-27-2014 05:10 PM

For those that keep mentioning the ATP minimum, don't forget you also need 1000 hours in 121 ops; not just an ATP

Packrat 02-27-2014 05:14 PM

I did meet a "street Captain" once. He was an ATA 737 Captain who went to Colgan as a BE-1900 Captain. But, that's been awhile. I was thinking along the lines of the fact that the Regionals can't even find enough qualified pilots to be F/Os much less Street Captains.

prior121 02-27-2014 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1591659)
I did meet a "street Captain" once. He was an ATA 737 Captain who went to Colgan as a BE-1900 Captain. But, that's been awhile. I was thinking along the lines of the fact that the Regionals can't even find enough qualified pilots to be F/Os much less Street Captains.

I don't think you quite understand what a street Captain is.....let me break this down....

Airline XYZ begins receiving new aircraft. They need more Captains. Airline XYZ runs through it's FOs that are eligible for upgrade. (2500TT 1000 121 SIC or 1000 135 PIC, some airlines CA requirements may be higher. 3500TT.)

Airline XYZ has run through it's eligible company FOs. Therefore advertises street captains.

Airline ZZY has FOs that have been at their airline for a long time and exceed Airline XYZ's Captain requirements. FO at ZZY is looking at many more years in the right seat, no upgrade in sight at ZZY.

Airline ZZY FO applies and is hired directly into the left seat at airline XYZ. Thus now making more money and getting 121 turbine PIC time.

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