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Originally Posted by Navmode
(Post 1591653)
For those that keep mentioning the ATP minimum, don't forget you also need 1000 hours in 121 ops; not just an ATP
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I get it. Wouldn't a street Captain get stuck seniority list wise behind every F/O on the property when it comes time for them to upgrade? Additionally, wouldn't the street Captain sort of be a pariah at his new airline?
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Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1591689)
I get it. Wouldn't a street Captain get stuck seniority list wise behind every F/O on the property when it comes time for them to upgrade? Additionally, wouldn't the street Captain sort of be a pariah at his new airline?
Now, he maybe a pariah if the (not qualified for upgrade) FOs in question are unprofessional and self absorbed. In laymans terms it would be jealousy over a position they were unqualified to fill. |
Originally Posted by aviatorhi
(Post 1591710)
... In laymans terms it would be jealousy over a position they were unqualified to fill.
I'd wonder what job security is like for the street captains - considering if things go south they'd likely be the first ones kicked off property, and as a guy who's ridden the downgrade/furlough train I'd have no interest in that life....I'm sure I could get over living on reserve...but the missing security (is there such a thing w/ a regional) would be terrible. I'm a guy who's on the outside and likely wouldn't get back in even with Street Captains coming up. I miss the life, but getting back in would mean giving up a whole lot of LIFE for the sake of "living the dream". |
Originally Posted by rcfd13
(Post 1591528)
When companies hire street CAs it's usually because none of their FOs meet the minimums to upgrade (1,000 hours 121 time). Since the industry has been completely stagnated for 6 years now and upgrade times are through the roof there are very few FOs at any regional who don't meet the mins to upgrade. Why would any company with a 6+ year upgrade time need to hire a street captain?
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
(Post 1591683)
Its not just 121 that counts. Certain 135 and I believe 91K operations count as well.
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Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1591595)
If you can't hire F/Os, why would you hire street Captains. And where would you get them anyway?
In the late 90's, one crappy regional was hiring current/qualified J31 CA's, offering a $10K bonus for a either a 12 or 18 month commitment, can't remember. Where were they to find said CA's from? Well, the other couple other J31 operators that were ever MORE crappy than the one offering the $10K. |
I hear the Saab operator in Puerto Rico is needing captains for their rapid growth.
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When I was hired at Skyw in 06, upgrade times were running 9 months if you had 1000 hours turbine crew time. The guys that took the early upgrade just got off reserve within the last year or so.
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
(Post 1591518)
There are also hardly any new-hire FOs who currently (or in the near future) will meet the 1000 hours of air carrier operations requirements for an unrestricted ATP... but I appreciate your attitude.
Sure, but the people who are qualified and experienced, though possibly looking for a change, are unwilling to work for the wages those FOs are willing to. There is perhaps a CHEAP pilot shortage, but there is no pilot shortage. |
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