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MARX 03-05-2014 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1595187)
It would be interesting to see that study and see the data points.

Oh man, I hope the airlines have realized what a bunch of liability they assumed when they hired all the pilots ABOVE whatever that magical TT number is!!:eek:

Do those pilots get allotted additional sim/IP/LCA time? They must. Never mind the guys ALREADY on property, camped out on one plane. THEN decided to either transition to another plane or god forbid, upgrade to a plane they've NEVER flown AND above that magical number. I'll bet they're really sweating that.

I truly, truly, TRULY feel sorry for the poor souls that can't grasp even the thickest sarcasm, facetiousness, and satire. As well as can't see how many studies can simply be proven not valid in all cases.

And on a more serious note, does that explain why DAL as an example hired some high time FO's with ZERO PIC in 2010 when there were SO MANY lower time pilots available?

Does that explain why recruiters at job fairs will say that they understand that there was this thing called the "dark decade", and they understand why some pilot's times are high compared to some other hiring eras, why their TPIC time may be lower in regards to TT due to stagnation, etc.

So with all that said and they study in mind, I guess this is what pilots SHOULD have done; 9/12/2001, QUIT. DON'T fly till around the 2005 time frame, THEN get back into flying to take advantage of the "pilot shortage" that will hit shortly. THEN, if they didn't get hired that round, STOP flying AGAIN for a little over a year, THEN get back in hoping to be one of the lucky ones to get hired at DAL. If not, quit AGAIN and hang out till late 2012, to take advantage of the NEXT pilot shortage. Whatever you do, DON'T put the time in the logbook!!!!! Or at a minimum, just don't log ANY time :p

Yeah...........that's the ticket......

Don't shoot the messenger - I'm not the architect of the aforementioned studies. I'm just simply conveying some info that may be helpful to some people on this forum.

PS I read your post out loud and yelled all of the capitalized words. It's possibly the most entertaining thing on this forum. I'd love to continue this exchange, however I've reached my maximum intake of crazy for the week.

wrxpilot 03-05-2014 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1594848)
When I interviewed at Delta, I was told in the interview room, "Every one sitting out there waiting to interview is qualified to be here. That is why we don't do sim rides. We know you know how to fly. This interview is to put a name to a face. My job is to keep DBs from making it to the line. If I can't stand to be in a room with you for 20 minutes, there's little chance someone wants to sit in a cockpit with you for 8 hours."

If you fail the face to face at Delta, you might want to take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror.

As for my interview, guess I fooled him!

That definitely sounds good on the surface, but it's not foolproof.

One of my very favorite captains to fly with at my current company was rejected at Delta. He's a great guy... Very personable, very sharp, excellent CRM, and so on. Just one of those guys that makes the whole crew happy, and 4 days become fun. I was really shocked when he told me he didn't make it through the Delta interview. Their loss, without a doubt.

Justdoinmyjob 03-07-2014 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 1596048)
That definitely sounds good on the surface, but it's not foolproof.

One of my very favorite captains to fly with at my current company was rejected at Delta. He's a great guy... Very personable, very sharp, excellent CRM, and so on. Just one of those guys that makes the whole crew happy, and 4 days become fun. I was really shocked when he told me he didn't make it through the Delta interview. Their loss, without a doubt.

Didn't say it was.

HermannGraf 03-07-2014 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 1596048)
That definitely sounds good on the surface, but it's not foolproof.

One of my very favorite captains to fly with at my current company was rejected at Delta. He's a great guy... Very personable, very sharp, excellent CRM, and so on. Just one of those guys that makes the whole crew happy, and 4 days become fun. I was really shocked when he told me he didn't make it through the Delta interview. Their loss, without a doubt.

I've seen many examples like that. The thing is that Delta may see things that you are not seeing, What is a nice guy for you and an excellent pilot is not necessary that nice or great for another person. I have also seen the opposite. I have seen Delta taking guys that I would not hire if I owned an airline. We do not have the map / picture they go by when they hire so we can only speculate.


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