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rev4life03 03-05-2014 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 1595661)
You guys are hilarious making assumptions about my life. Saying I'm selfish blah blah blah. I was putting out a possible solution for pilots to improve QOL. I see APC is all about talking tough and sending insults from behind the computer. The comparison to teachers was in regards to pay. If we're talking about loan forgiveness obviously were done taking about making money on the loan so what's the point of bringing it up. Btw my loans are all current so yelling pay up doesn't do anything. And I'm not over 100k in debt guess I was worried about my fellow aviators who are.

Why worry about them, nobody told them to take out the huge loan. Nobody made them go to flight school, if they cant hack at paying back their loans, don't accept the wages offered, or, get a second job, get three jobs! Why should they be forgiven for their stupid mistakes? I chose to pay my my own way and am building time for my commercial. If these pilots get their loans forgiven, that's not fair for me and others who paid their way is it? They basically got their training for free, does it mean I can finish my training for free?

makersmarc 03-05-2014 07:49 AM

I started off my career as a public school teacher with student loan debts from college. My plan was to teach in an underserved district and have my loans reduced. The minute I signed on the dotted line with my new employer the government changed the rules. They declared my district was no longer 'underserved.' Was I pizzed? Yes. What did I do? I paid my loans back, begrudgingly. Life isn't fair sometimes.

At present people have (or should have) the understanding that there will be no loan forgiveness for aviation careers. This is a very expensive career, a better choice for a return on investment would be law school or medicine. Well, maybe not medicine. If I had it to do over again I would become an accountant and fly my own plane for fun.

lolwut 03-05-2014 07:51 AM

Yeah, because after managing to pay for my own flight training... I, as a taxpayer, should have to help you pay for yours too.

That makes sense. Plus anything that makes it unfairly cheaper for a set group of people to become pilots is going to increase the supply of pilots and screw over the fact that we just might be getting to the right side of the supply/demand curve and have the power to start making this profession a little better.

NovemberBravo 03-05-2014 07:54 AM

I think I'm done with this thread this guy is getting all bent out of shape about possible legislation that's only being discussed in a forum because HE won't benift from it. Take a xanax and chill.

rev4life03 03-05-2014 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 1595673)
I think I'm done with this thread this guy is getting all bent out of shape about possible legislation that's only being discussed in a forum because HE won't benift from it. Take a xanax and chill.

Sounds to me somebody here didn't hear what they wanted to hear because we don't support something that will benefit HIM.

:D

pete2800 03-05-2014 08:07 AM

A+ thread. Would read again!

cubbies4life 03-05-2014 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1595667)
That's an ignorant comment. Just because we don't save lives or teach 180 days (yes, only 180 days) each year, we don't have anything to offer society? Why don't you try and imagine what the world would be like without pilots or aviation. Whether your pessimism realizes it or not, we have an incredibly important role in making this country function and prosper. Comparing teachers, nurses, and pilots is like comparing apples and oranges.

The ignorant comment is thinking that teachers only work 180 days. They work much harder than you or I.

SkyHigh 03-05-2014 08:41 AM

Forgiveness?
 
Teachers and nurses provide a public service that is in demand. As incentive to promote these harbingers of public good there are grounds to support loan forgiveness. Pilots are martyrs on a personal vision quest. Their sacrifice makes it so that the public can fly over the weekend to visit a girlfriend on a whim and pay next to nothing for the service. As such it is not a benevolent sacrifice for the public good and should not be forgiven.

In fact financial destruction due to making foolish self centered career choices should stand as example to succeeding generations. Therefore the best outcome is that the ruined pilot can serve as a cautionary tale of the consequences of making a poor choice.

Skyhigh

brianb 03-05-2014 08:49 AM

Maybe we should have formed an insurance company, maybe a car manufacturing facility or, or, maybe a bank. I hope all you self righteous blow hards come down just as hard on the government when it comes to "bail outs". Do you vent to them or just your fellow sky jockeys? Then again, you can continue to spew the same sewage that comes out of Sky's mouth and call yourself content.

ArcherDvr 03-05-2014 08:52 AM

Many people don't know that for your government loans you can get on an income based repayment plan, which at a 1st year FO wage you would not have to pay anything for the year, and after 20 years, the balance is forgiven.


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