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mobius27 03-17-2014 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by motormadness (Post 1604150)
If the OP isn't looking to go overseas, they have a mild to severe case of SJS. I respect the fact if you want to fly a big shiny RJ to go overseas. However, please don't go to a PSA, Pinnacle, Mesa, etc., JUST because they have a bunch of big shiny planes with engines under the wings so you can get a girl in every city :rolleyes:

PSA's postings on the orange site have gotten slightly comical, today it says (Fly a brand new aircraft) which has to be about the 15th or so unique subtitle that I've seen relating to getting new 900's.

I might apply if only the engines were under the wings. :D

pete2800 03-17-2014 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by soakingpilot (Post 1603959)
I do not care about flow through to the majors. Upgrade is nice but not everything as QOL is also quite important I think. Would prefer to be with a company flying a Cr7 and up or an Ejet due to MTOW.

Best companies I can see for this are

Compass, Skywest, Republic and possibly Mesa ( if the new jets are coming in )

Does anyone have an opinion with this criteria?

As well does TPIC really mean as much nowadays or has nothing changed and its the ONLY thing that matters when getting hired somewhere else?

Cheers. Please try to just answer and help and not run on a company bashing rant or whatever else. You know what can happen on this forum :rolleyes:

To summarize:

- Flow is not a factor
- Upgrade is not a factor
- QOL is a factor
- You want a "heavy" RJ.


Is 65.2k lbs heavy enough? If so... Horizon? You'll make more than at PSA/Mesa/RAH.

Where do you live? Where do you want to live?

freezingflyboy 03-17-2014 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by motormadness (Post 1604150)
If the OP isn't looking to go overseas, they have a mild to severe case of SJS. I respect the fact if you want to fly a big shiny RJ to go overseas. However, please don't go to a PSA, Pinnacle, Mesa, etc., JUST because they have a bunch of big shiny planes with engines under the wings so you can get a girl in every city :rolleyes:

Get real dude! No one from PSA, Pinnacle or Mesa can afford a girl anywhere, regardless of how their engines are hung! :D

thump 03-17-2014 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 1604528)
To summarize:

- Flow is not a factor
- Upgrade is not a factor
- QOL is a factor
- You want a "heavy" RJ.


Is 65.2k lbs heavy enough? If so... Horizon? You'll make more than at PSA/Mesa/RAH.

Where do you live? Where do you want to live?

Just FYI, but prop time doesn't count in the eyes of the middle eastern carriers. They want glass, jet, and over 50k lbs.

No disrespect to the prop drivers intended. Heck, I could be flying one in the next year.

pete2800 03-17-2014 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by thump (Post 1604572)
Just FYI, but prop time doesn't count in the eyes of the middle eastern carriers. They want glass, jet, and over 50k lbs.

No disrespect to the prop drivers intended. Heck, I could be flying one in the next year.

Ah, you're right. I had forgotten about that.

Skyvector 03-17-2014 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by soakingpilot (Post 1603959)
I do not care about flow through to the majors. Upgrade is nice but not everything as QOL is also quite important I think. Would prefer to be with a company flying a Cr7 and up or an Ejet due to MTOW.

Best companies I can see for this are

Compass, Skywest, Republic and possibly Mesa ( if the new jets are coming in )

Does anyone have an opinion with this criteria?

As well does TPIC really mean as much nowadays or has nothing changed and its the ONLY thing that matters when getting hired somewhere else?

Cheers. Please try to just answer and help and not run on a company bashing rant or whatever else. You know what can happen on this forum :rolleyes:

I would be very careful when choosing a place to work for based only on type of aircraft flown. QOL and career progression should be your top priority.

As far as the companies you have listed, the only advice I can give is to perhaps think twice before going to Mesa or Republic.

Their work rules and contracts seem to be pretty poor even by Regional standards.

I don't know any details about SkyWest or Compass beyond the things you read on this forum so I'll let other people answer for those companies.

TPIC does not matter much anymore these days. Part 121 turbine time in general is enough to get you an interview at all the Majors and LCCs. Spirit might be the only exception. I have heard they now require 500 pic time but I'm not 100% on that. But none of the majors require PIC time anymore.

Final thought: Choose whichever airline will allow you to live in base.

Swedish Blender 03-17-2014 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1604625)
TPIC does not matter much anymore these days. Part 121 turbine time in general is enough to get you an interview at all the Majors and LCCs. Spirit might be the only exception. I have heard they now require 500 pic time but I'm not 100% on that. But none of the majors require PIC time anymore.

It will not get you an interview at FedEx, UPS, or SWA.

OP, why do you want to work in the ME so bad? There are some interesting stories about life/flying there. Do you know anyone who flies there? If so, talk to them before you make any decisions.

soakingpilot 03-18-2014 12:35 AM

Ok thanks for some positive input ladies and gents.
Just to catchup a little bit.
Flow I dont care about because I think its a gimmick and I dont want to fly for the US majors anyways.

Upgrades, well again the regional that anyone works for might disappear before you get there so why choose a company based off of upgrade time rather then QOL while you are there.

Yes heavy jets only for flying in the middle east Sometimes its +10 sometimes its +30 tons that they look for but from what I gather they are only looking for jets so thats what I want.

No there is no case of SJS here but in fact getting onto equipment that I believe would give me the biggest range of options after the regional is what I want and if that happens to be an Ejet then so be it.

I went from 300 - 1500 hours flying planes in the bush in Africa and met allot of different pilots there from all around the show. The mid east to me just seems one of the few places that you can get some respect as a pilot anymore.

Oh and like I said before about living in base I am single and can move wherever. Would prefer N.east or California.

Cheers again and any helpful feedback would be appreciated.

** BTW, I have read about PSA and no I'm not interested in going there. I do believe that signing on to concessionary contracts only gives employers ANYWHERE the thought that you can manipulate your workforce to whatever you need. It may not bite you at your current employer but how do you know that someone down the road might not try it again based off of past history? Vote No :) Strength in numbers.

IBPilot 03-18-2014 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by motormadness (Post 1604150)
If the OP isn't looking to go overseas, they have a mild to severe case of SJS. I respect the fact if you want to fly a big shiny RJ to go overseas. However, please don't go to a PSA, Pinnacle, Mesa, etc., JUST because they have a bunch of big shiny planes with engines under the wings so you can get a girl in every city :rolleyes:

1. There is no more Pinnacle.
2. ENDEAVOR has no "engine under wing" aircraft. They got rid of the "engine ON wing" (saab, Q) aircraft several years ago.

research before posting, please :rolleyes:

irony- a guy with the name "motormadness" chiding someone for their choice of engine size/location.....


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