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New regional pilot motto:

Pay or Cancel

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Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1611908)

Ever since AA declared bankruptcy in November 2011 Eagle has been ignored and kept in the dark about it's future.

While that sucks and creates an air of uncertainty among the ranks, it is no where near a "squeeze".

Status Quo is what Eagle has been experiencing for the past 3 years which is hardly any kind of hurt. It makes you apprehensive, sure. But doesn't hurt.

I hope this gamble pays off. I really do. I just think you guys aren't seeing the reality of the situation.

Um I would like you to ask how much it "doesn't hurt" all the LAX and SJU based employees. Ask them all how their lives were affected by that Best Option contract we were given. When I was face to face with the union and company representatives (our vp of ops) that "eagle will grow under this bankruptcy contract" and that " AA was to increase the flying at the LAX, MIA, and NYC bases. Let's take a look at what really happened. Oh it seems that LAX and SJU were closed within 6 months of that contract signing and the flying farmed out to someone else.
These things were told to us over a year ago, and now it's all the same. We were supposed to have a fleet plan when we signed the bk contract, when did we get that fleet plan? All sounds a little too familiar and smells like SH*T.
Sorry you won't get to AA any quicker Goose! Obviously you took managements advice and voted what's best for YOU.
I am not afraid to walk the street (again) from this place.
Time to shake your shiny jet syndrome.

Congrats to the rest who stood up for what you believe. I believe this is a great moment in our history. Don't let Debbie downer rain on your parade.

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Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1611941)

At which point all of this will have been for naught. But again, I am hoping for the best right now. I have just as much to lose and gain as every other Eagle pilot at this point.

I totally get what you’re saying. It’s like rape? Why fight. Just sit back and enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1611949)

I'm a Captain at Eagle. I would say I have much more at stake than you who is just shouting from the bleachers.

As such I'm entitled to my opinion just as much as every other Eagle pilot. If that makes you butt hurt it is not my problem.

I'm sorry... Maybe I misread that. What do you have at stake here that is so much greater than the rest of us? I'm not in the bleachers. Im here with everyone else. There's no I in team, but theres a ME damnit!

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Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1611949)

I think that the majority of your colleagues are looking at the big picture. I wish I could have the same respect for my co-workers at Endeavor that I do for Eagle pilots right now.

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Originally Posted by flyguy94 (Post 1611945)

XJT MEC Alert

28 March 2014

ExpressJet Pilots Stand Proudly with the Pilots of American Eagle

Today the pilots of American Eagle voted against a concessionary contract by an overwhelming margin of 70%. The ExpressJet MEC would like to convey its support for their decision to join other pilot groups at Fee For Departure airlines who have resisted the downward pressure on pay, benefits, and work rules. All pilots must stand together during this challenging time. Your MEC will continue to support the American Eagle pilots. Only through unified action can we change the industry. Today is a continuation of our ongoing support for our brothers and sisters at American Eagle.

My how times change! Just a few short months ago, i was told by the XJET mec that voting NO was useless as AE couldn't be counted on to support us and they would probably get more flying at XJT expense. 7,000 pilots now saying NO! Are you listening RAH?! We need you to stand up! Let's go for 10,000!

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Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1611941)

I'm hoping for the best. As a MIA Captain who upgraded two years ago I probably won't get displaced back to FO unless the crap really hits the fan. I worry more about absolute stagnation and others who probably will get displaced.

Either way, I hope this gamble pays off. It's not as simple as some of you make it out to be. There are a number of factors which have to come together for this to go even slightly our way. In the end, AA may come back with the same offer or a slightly worse one...at which point we vote it in anyway because of how horrible things have become.

At which point all of this will have been for naught. But again, I am hoping for the best right now. I have just as much to lose and gain as every other Eagle pilot at this point.

Why are all your posts (except 1, also not in MIA) from DFW area? If you're gonna come on here and sell crap, you'd better have it all together.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1611973)

Why are all your posts (except 1, also not in MIA) from DFW area? If you're gonna come on here and sell crap, you'd better have it all together.

Because that's where I live.

I guess I don't get to have an opinion. I'm hoping for the best for us all...but go ahead and call/think of me what you want.

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Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1611974)

Because that's where I live.

I guess I don't get to have an opinion. I'm hoping for the best for us all...but go ahead and call/think of me what you want.

There’s always that 10 percent, or in this case 30. God bless America, you’ve been met at the ballot box. I wish you luck in the next vote. Not!

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Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 1611913)

In the future, the three successive no votes from XJet, Eagle, and soon to be RAH will be viewed as a turning point in the airline pilot profession. We are taking the leverage we finally know we have a forcing the regional airline model to change. I am very proud to be a part of this movement.

Enjoy the victory, but keep focused. Things may get harder before they get easier for all of us. With unity, we can continue to apply the pressure and make this a career worth having again.

Silver deserves credit as well.