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Old 12-24-2006 | 05:33 PM
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Hey guys I'm curious. I was talking to an old buddy of mine who was a capt. at Pinnacle and now he's a first officer for CAL. He was telling me, I'm only positive it's old news here, that pinnacle has a 10yr contract with NWA and pinnacle also will be receiving new jets. However for them to get them there's a clause where they have to sign the new pilot contract by march or else they don't get the jets. Has this contract already been signed or are we still waiting?
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Hey guys I'm curious. I was talking to an old buddy of mine who was a capt. at Pinnacle and now he's a first officer for CAL. He was telling me, I'm only positive it's old news here, that pinnacle has a 10yr contract with NWA and pinnacle also will be receiving new jets. However for them to get them there's a clause where they have to sign the new pilot contract by march or else they don't get the jets. Has this contract already been signed or are we still waiting?
Why would you title this thread "Pinnacle Payscale"?
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Old 12-24-2006 | 06:57 PM
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because it's a pay contract about pinnacle perhaps????
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Hey guys I'm curious. I was talking to an old buddy of mine who was a capt. at Pinnacle and now he's a first officer for CAL. He was telling me, I'm only positive it's old news here, that pinnacle has a 10yr contract with NWA and pinnacle also will be receiving new jets. However for them to get them there's a clause where they have to sign the new pilot contract by march or else they don't get the jets. Has this contract already been signed or are we still waiting?
Pinnacle signed a new Airport Service Agreement (ASA) with NWA last week. This new ASA must be finalized by March 2007. At this point there are 2 outcomes. At a minimum, the new deal will be 3-years. At a maximum, the deal would be worth 10 years. Most Pinnacle guys believe they already got a 10-year deal through 2017 but it won't be officially finalized for a couple of months yet.

So far Pinnacle is not receiving any new jets. Pinnacle is simply getting back the 17 CRJ's NWA took away last year.
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How would this effect their pay? Will there be a bump in the $21 per hour or is the $21 the new standard.
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Old 12-25-2006 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
How would this effect their pay? Will there be a bump in the $21 per hour or is the $21 the new standard.


I hope to god that it increases.
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How would this effect their pay? Will there be a bump in the $21 per hour or is the $21 the new standard.
The new agreement between Pinnacle and NWA has nothing to do with what a pilot makes. The only thing that affects your hourly rate is what ALPA and managment can agree on in future contracts.

The new ASA with NWA will surely have a lower profit margin than before and mangamnet will tell the pilots they cannot afford what the pilots are asking for but that is just the way the game is played. Since Pinnacle pilots have been trying to negotiate a new contract for the last 2 years their pay is near the bottom of the indusrty. Because of this, you can be assured that future payrates will have to be increased...there is no way they would go down from their current rates.

Until a new contract is reached, you can plan on first year pay at Pinncale to remain at $21/hr.
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Old 12-26-2006 | 09:12 AM
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I was told the new agreement had a clause in it that Pinnacle had to finish their contract with the pilots, meaning new pay rates, by a certain time in march or else they don't get the contract.
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
because it's a pay contract about pinnacle perhaps????
If you think a pilot contract is just about pay, you are grossly misinformed. If it was just pay rates, it would be a couple pages long at most. Most airline contracts are over 100 pages long with all kinds of clauses in em like what is required to drop or trade a trip, leaves of absence, who gets junior manned in what order all the way down to seat assignment hierarchy for deadheads. Listen to these SkyWest guys. Their hourly rates aren't bad. But where they make their real money is in the workrules of their contract, not in the hourly rate. So in summary, the title of this thread should probably have been something along the lines of "New Pinnacle Contract"
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Old 12-26-2006 | 09:59 AM
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I wasn't interested in the whole contract. I was asking about the payscale. If the hourly rate is going up or if the jump from 19 to $21 was it. I don't plan on anything except what's on paper. I wanted to know if the monthly guarantee is planning on going up or not.
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