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It's interesting to note that ALPA employees have better benefits than many of us, yet cave in when it comes to negotiating our benefits.

Check it out:https://jobs-alpa.icims.com/jobs/int...Redirect=false
ALPA offers competitive salaries with excellent benefits, including:

• 26 days paid vacation and holidays per year;
• Generous sick and bereavement leave;
• Generous health care benefits – PPO, two HMO’s (where available) and a High Deductible Health Plan which includes coverage for medical, dental, and vision benefits for employee, spouse, and/or dependent children;
• Company-paid premiums for disability and life insurance;
• $2 for $1 matching 401(k) retirement savings plan; Roth 401(k);
• Flexible Spending and Health Savings accounts; and
• Retiree health plan.

Pretty sweet gig if you can get it.....

Your dues at work. I thought the same until I actually worked with em, and getting hired there isn't easy. All of em have lots of previous experience and take care of anything asked of them, very well I might add. You get what you pay for.

You gotta pay to play, that's life.

You mean like the ALPA "journalist" that wrote the story about "Timmy Martin"?

And your interview "what was your worst flight" question doesn't factor? Pretty sure the editor and author will site it in an interview. Can you imagine the ease of "and what did you learn from that...?" Softball.

If you want to knock the Alpa staff, you gotta dig deeper. Everyone I worked with became a first name basis and took care of anything asked before I could even find a complaint. That was as a rep, so there is a bias, but I remember sending a comm up to national on a weekend and it being in the inbox within an hour after. Nothing like sending a confirmation, shutting the phone off for a 1 hour flight, and landing with a bunch of emails from pilots. Can't beat the staffers. Once again, gotta pay to play

HEY!!! Timmy is a model aviator and F-16 pilot.

Have some respect

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The secretaries at ALPA make significantly more than I do

It was a very technical article written by the Technical Editor.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v-qHT_wYfA...ne+article.jpg

Where's good ol' Tim nowadays? Commutair still, I heard?

He's probably the reason management decided to offer unsolicited raises for the entire pilot group...:eek:

Mali Air Express, Timothy Martins? - PPRuNe Forums

Mali Air ? circa 2011

The secretary to the executives makes over $100,000/year.

They asked me to do a web job on a volunteer basis, then I discovered that the web developer makes nearly 90k per year.

There's a list out there of the compensation for all the staffers, including Mr. Lispy who makes $700,000. There's absolutely no fuggin reason Moak should make that much.

He has a corporate gig now, I want to say Talon Air, but not 100% sure.

Here's a factoid for you all. did you know that ALPA Staff have a union? It is a union within a union and all those "generous" benefits you mentioned are negotiated! and get this: every few years, ALPA staff goes on strike. Against a union.

I say more power to them, and that should support them 100%. Every time I've been doing ALPA work, when the Staff strike, we walk out with them in support. We do not cross their picket line and do not perform struck work. Yes, I'm serious.

The staff hasn't struck in over 10 years. The last strike was a unit two strike and unit one continued to work.

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Can we have a Tim Martins thread? I really need more of this guys story.

We need a Tim martins and fozjared photoshop.

Oh, ouch guess I hit a nerve.

Yes, technically you're correct since the last one was in 2004. Before that was 2002? In 2010, they came real close but settled in the 11th hour.

What was your point anyhow?

:eek:



The point is the pay and benefits for the ALPA member pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, ect... has steadily declined over the last twenty years yet the pay and benefits for ALPA employees has exceeded most companies in the US today. If you don't have a problem with this, then you are part of the problem.

The union is being paid to fight for benefits for those whom they represent, and they simply don't. When the going gets tough, they cave and say, "oh well, we tried". (that should be their motto. "oh well, we tried".)

When Frank Lorenzo came around sucking up airlines, you would have thought that ALPA would have had the brains to hire people with brains to stop Lorenzo. They didn't, they waited until the Eastern Airline mess blew up and then everyone lost. Why didn't they hire a team of lawyers, investment bankers and merger & aquistion boys when Lorenzo went after Continental and Peoples Express. Where were they when the Texas Air pilots were begging ALPA for help facing a kind of threat unseen before? (read Flying the Line, Vol II for more info, written, ironically by an ALPA insider)

Where has ALPA been the last twenty years, as we went from 0 seat scope clauses to now 90+.???

It seems that ALPA leadership is more interested in keeping themselves in power than in actually doing something beneficial for those they are supposed to represent.

So, ALPA can't stop seat scope increases, or pilot pay and benefits from being cut nor can not help strengthen job stability and security? Then why are we paying them dues? WHY?

You keep sayin you "gotta pay to play". Pay for what, crappy contracts, benefits and seat give backs on scope, allowing the majors to shift high paying career pilot jobs to regional starvation wages that will keep us locked into regional jobs because majors can't hire cause they can't expand??? Is that "paying to play"?

Ya, pay to play.... works great only for ALPA union employees and leaders. Ask the pilots of today's regional airlines, and the old Texas Air, Continental and Eastern how 'paying to play" worked out for them.

ALPA can't keep members updated on what is going on, can't afford to spend money to get a top negotiating team, can't afford to pay strategist to figure out how stop losing seats to scope, yet they can afford to pay 100K plus bennies for a secretary?? What the fudge?

It's time to overhaul ALPA and the leadership in the regionals in general, before the pilots haven't got anything left to "pay to play" with.

We already gave up 90+ seats over 20 years, where does it end? It ends when all the major pay and benefits are reduced to that of the regionals.

By the way, I'm sure all those people at ALPA are very nice, and work hard. But they are not working for the pilots best interest as the continual decline in the career earnings and satisfaction keeping hitting new lows. They are not the best and brightest nor do they hire the best and brightest while the airline owners do. And that is why the pilots will continue to lose.

Pilots better wake up and really get organized or get used to a continuation for a race to the bottom. It's time we stopped "paying to play" and instead started "Paying to Win".

DEAD NUTS ON!!!! Time to get rid of a bunch of fat lazy white guys and start getting WORKING PILOTS of OUR DEMOGRAPHICS representing us. Imagine that, huh????

Tony, just correcting an inaccuracy. In 2010, it was not close to a strike. Yeah they were doing informational picketing but a strike was never on the table. Ask HKFlyer.

Did ALPA National negotiate benefits at *your* airline, or did pilots that work at your airline staff your Negotiating Committee?

Did ALPA National vote for the CBA at *your* airline, or did pilots that work at your airline do the ratification?

+1

Sounds like Gjet needs to IMMEDIATELY run for a MEC position at his airline and show us all how it's done.

Send me your dues and I'll be happy to give it a shot.

So you're complaining about ALPA and you're not even a member?

??? Never said that. But you said it plain enough to my response in the other thread, that basically, ALPA doesn't do much for the regional pilot. And you are right!!! (So why pay dues?)

Maybe you need to start spending some time taking action at the union to try to make things better, rather than spending so much time on these forums pumping a union that doesn't do much (if anything) for the regional pilots. If you are already doing that, then you are failing. Why is this? Do you need more input or support from other members? Or do regional pilots need a regional union that goes to bat for them, not mainline guys. Either way, ALPA could be doing a hell of a lot more for us. Just sayin...;)

If you never said that, then why would you make a comment that I should send you dues money so that you can run for office? What does anyone sending you dues money have to do with you running for office? I just assumed someone who would make a comment like that isn't even an ALPA member as they don't understand how the election process works.

Further, "I am already doing that." Been doing "that" for over 20 years now in one form or another. I've found that the people who don't show up for union meetings, don't volunteer for union positions, don't communicate directly with their reps are, again, amongst the most clueless pilots at the airline. They have no idea what ALPA CAN and CANNOT do, and therefore assign blame where it shouldn't be assigned. And if you think I'm an ALPA cheerleader....you don't know me very well. I'm just a realist and I understand what ALPA (or any union for that matter) CAN and CANNOT do. I also believe that ALPA is the best union to represent my interests right now as an airline pilot. That's why I find your ramblings a few posts back pretty comical. I can't count how many times I've heard it or read it before.

So......instead of whining on an internet forum about how terrible ALPA is, perhaps you should run for a MEC position at your airline and actually do something to evoke change? Show us all how it's done? Don't get me wrong- your keyboard muscles are big and strong and of course I'm thoroughly impressed, but if you are as knowledgeable as you think you are, then you know where the REAL work gets done, right?

And if that involves the regional airlines getting their "own" union to represent them, go for it! Start the process tomorrow! I'd even send money to help support the change, just like I have with other airlines like JetBlue. Boot ALPA out the door! Show us all how a union should be run. He11, if your new union does a better job than ALPA or IAM or whoever, I'd be first in line to change the union at my airline. But again, I won't hold my breath. Unfortunately internet bravado rarely translates into meaningful action.