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othello 06-03-2014 11:16 AM

Really? Go look at the type and oral Fail rates of Mesaba and Colgan pilots being welcomed to 9E a couple years ago down in Memphis .Check rides from (Pink Slip Peoples) & (Washout Wilson) they were even failing guys on FAA observation rides that should be a complete nonevent . but not when you turn it into a two leg flight and a four hour oral

IBPilot 06-03-2014 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by othello (Post 1657439)
Really? Go look at the type and oral Fail rates of Mesaba and Colgan pilots being welcomed to 9E a couple years ago down in Memphis .Check rides from (Pink Slip Peoples) & (Washout Wilson)

If you can't pass a Wilson check ride, you probably shouldn't even be driving a car to the airport. Peoples gives a very fair ride. Ive had both of them. With Colgan guys in the other seat.

BYOB 06-03-2014 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1657431)
seriously, it's time to ban this troll.

Agreed. He trolls the UPS threads as well. I think he eats Cheez-its all day in his mom's basement.

Mesabah 06-03-2014 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1657442)
If you can't pass a Wilson check ride, you probably shouldn't even be driving a car to the airport. Peoples gives a very fair ride. Ive had both of them. With Colgan guys in the other seat.

The problem is that at XJ, and other airlines such as DAL/NWA, the PC is exactly like a 9E rloft. Many weren't prepared for what they were about to do the first time with a 9E PC. You know, a 9E check ride is really easy once you know what tricks they are going to pull.

IBPilot 06-03-2014 11:34 AM

there was one guy notorious (even among other instructors I hear) for pinks. But he was an equal opportunity pink, 9e/xj/9L. The type that seriously asks how may holes are in the alternate static source.

othello 06-03-2014 11:55 AM

You said it yourself the tricks they pull? this is careers on the line it's a FAA Checkride there should be no tricks! There should not be maneuvers that you never trained for that you're given on a Checkride that are not required FAA maneuvers. There should be no talking during the FAA observation it's not an oral they should sit and shake your hand at the end and tell you good job.
All I'm saying is the fail rate was ridiculously high for the caliber of pilots that they were testing most of us had 6+ years experience and had seen many Checkride's and type ratings.
I'm just pointing this out because of this thread I'm not here to bash anyone but it has happened and it could happen again when people don't want somebody moving on to their seniority list.

cubanfiredawg 06-03-2014 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1657433)
heard that from a friend of a ramper's girlfriend? or the guy that needed 32 sim sessions?

Actually saw it happen Probi. It happened to guys going through recurrent, upgrade, and linchecks.

Avroman 06-04-2014 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1657451)
there was one guy notorious (even among other instructors I hear) for pinks. But he was an equal opportunity pink, 9e/xj/9L. The type that seriously asks how may holes are in the alternate static source.

On a product built by Bombardier and maintained for 10+ years by Pinnacle..... Correct answer is "D. not enough information"

captain152 06-04-2014 04:46 PM

I can't imagine anyone here would intentionally put a black mark on a newbie's record just out of spite for something that they had absolutely zero control over. I was one of those Colgan transition guys that had People's. I was given a completely fair checkride with no surprises or "gotchas". Don't judge someone based on the stories you hear. Meet them and then decide for yourself.

I hope that this flow thing actually does work because it'll finally create upward movement here that we, the current pilot group, need desperately. That being said I think it's complete BS.

CRM114 06-04-2014 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1656699)
try and sabotage the career prospects of EtD pilots by trying to flunk them on checkrides and linechecks? or writing them up for frivolous infractions just so they would have some negative items on their employment record to try and disqualify them from flowing to Delta?


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1656712)
Don't underestimate the jealousy and envy of a forlorn regional lifer captain who sees a constant stream of copilots leaving for the dream job that he thinks should be his.


Well, there ya go. Apparently they would, huh?

Please proceed directly to the Tool of the Day thread


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