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Originally Posted by Spoiler
(Post 1678068)
family life and regional do not belong in the same sentence. guaranteed to miss every milestone and your vacations will not match those of your family.
if aviation is your thing but you want to be home most nights look for something in a support function but stay away from being a line pilot |
For the month I June I spent 2 nights away from home and flew 4 days on reserve. But- I was the most senior guy on reserve and I got lucky.
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Originally Posted by PA31
(Post 1678179)
For the month I June I spent 2 nights away from home and flew 4 days on reserve. But- I was the most senior guy on reserve and I got lucky.
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Originally Posted by hindsight2020
(Post 1677868)
You're overstating the case. A guy who sits reserve and lives on assigned domicile is not gone 20 nights a month. This whole "gypsies need only apply" is a vestige of a commuter-biased lifestyle. The only normalized hardship of the lifestyle from a in-domicile perspective is that of getting the family to tolerate the fact your hard days off will never fall on the weekends, when the rest of the world socializes with each other. That does make airline pilots relative pariahs.
From a cursory look at my coworkers at the squadron, the in-base guys enjoy a home life not dramatically different than the 9-5 guy, while earning a hell of a lot more than a 9-5 guy for a hell of a lot less work and politics endured. These guys are all mainline of course. I'll also plug the 'better' simulator outfits as viable work alternatives. That's a pretty good salary for zero work. The shifts suck these days with the ramp-up, but you're home every night. Dozing for dollars. Something to look into. It really does come down to living in base to minimize your time away, especially at a regional. To take that to the next step, if you really want to minimize it, live in the largest base, where the company has the most flexibility with the schedules. As you can see, the experience level is all over the place. But, avoiding the "non-hub" domiciles minimizes the risk of a base closure. At the regionals, you WILL start out with 15-20 days working each month, but living in domicile can easily get you several more nights at home. You asked about which carriers will give you the best chance of that happening. Since you are at least a year, and maybe 18 months, from getting hired, that's too hard to say. The airline you don't want to work for today may be the best one to go to later, and vice versa. Generally speaking, the larger the carrier, the better the odds, but who knows? What if your airline of choice stops or slows hiring? If you're willing to move, it's worth looking at a map of all of the major domiciles and start asking yourself where you'd like to live or where you'd like to avoid living, then apply accordingly. If you plan to try to go to the majors, you can deal with that issue then, but at some point, I would imagine you will want to settle down. The point about "being home means you're home" is one not to be missed. The only time you will be doing anything on your off days will be when you need to study for recurrent. Otherwise, when you are not working, you are free to do as you please. |
If OP were to go to your regional (whatever that may be), how long would he need to wait to get that 18-day off schedule? With his military retirement he could live on that income and remain an FO to ensure eternal seniority and better schedules.
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Originally Posted by Counselor
(Post 1678207)
If OP were to go to your regional (whatever that may be), how long would he need to wait to get that 18-day off schedule? With his military retirement he could live on that income and remain an FO to ensure eternal seniority and better schedules.
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I'm on track to make $55k this year, and at LEAST 15 days off/mo in base in DEN. 4th year pay at SKW, CRJ FO. Not great, but could be worse I guess. Trying to move on to something better, but I do love living in base with a good schedule.
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
(Post 1678243)
I'm on track to make $55k this year, and at LEAST 15 days off/mo in base in DEN. 4th year pay at SKW, CRJ FO. Not great, but could be worse I guess. Trying to move on to something better, but I do love living in base with a good schedule.
I know it's all about how a company works "soft time" and that it's possible to make big $$ with certain airliners...but if EVERY pilot was doing it at that company, the company would be out of business...I'd be more curious what a 4 year CRJ FO makes who simply "flies the line". |
Originally Posted by flynavyj
(Post 1678561)
Numbers like that are thrown out everyonce in a while, but typically has more to do with a pilots familiarity with how to "work the system" inside their company's constraints...end result, it's not the "norm" for most pilots with a company...
I know it's all about how a company works "soft time" and that it's possible to make big $$ with certain airliners...but if EVERY pilot was doing it at that company, the company would be out of business...I'd be more curious what a 4 year CRJ FO makes who simply "flies the line". I doubt the company would be out of business, because 1) I'm still WAY underpaid and 2) I'm just an average line pilot. |
Originally Posted by wrxpilot
(Post 1678739)
I simply fly the line, I do no tricks, I pick nothing up, and I drop stuff when I can. We have no reserves, so I pretty much never drop anything anymore unfortunately. I bid about 50% in my base and mostly fly the 700. This month I'm crediting 90 hours, 15 days off. Pretty typical for me.
I doubt the company would be out of business, because 1) I'm still WAY underpaid and 2) I'm just an average line pilot. |
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