The ASA MEC side is ok with the ERJ side giving up our B fund, reduced 401k matching, less per diem, more costly health insurance, less sick accrual, no excused sick calls, less LTD benefits, no OJI bank, check in, reassignment windows, etc. In NONE of those areas will the CRJ side be taking any concessions that the ERJ side will. In fact, despite the concessions you would've gotten on that last TA, there were many gains thanks to the current ERJ contract. But the ASA MEC INSISTS that despite all of the concessions coming to the ERJ side, they will dictate everything. Well, it seems like the XJT MEC side wants to try smartpref (it doesn't matter why but the only reason is because they believe it's better than flight line in regards to the ERJ schedules). So answer this simple question, if flight line is so much better and smartpref is so much worse, then what is wrong with keeping the Process Agreement for Interim and Single PBS?

To me it seems like a very small bone to throw to the side who is taking the brunt of the concessions management wants us to take.

I have no objections to using an agreed-upon process to figure out which PBS system we are going to use.

When it comes to retirement plans and the OJI bank are concerned, I'd ask if United, Delta, or American has the same sort of deal. If this is something that all the majors have, then I would be hard-pressed to give it up. However, if on the other hand L-XJT is the only airline out there with these kinds of benefits and Skywest Airlines, Republic, and Eagle(Envoy) or even the majors are not actively negotiating for these benefits, then I would call these items unsustainable.

And the XJT MEC voted to send a TA that got rid of the B Fund, and the OJI bank, and no excused sick calls, and reduced 401k matching, and reduced per diem, and reduced sick accrual, and more costly health insurance, and less valuable LTD, and to give us check in, and reassignment windows, and ACARS reassignments, and PBS.

So who should be complaining here?

You base your negotiations and pilot needs for security on another pilot group is that correct.

There's NO MORE MONEY. No more. Time to cut you loose. Your contract is not sustainable, it's a horrible money loser. So you should be fine with that. The ASA MEC is looking out for ASA pilots, not LXJTs. Happy sword falling!

AnchorDown

Our contract is not a money loser. The CPA that management negotiated is the money loser. But go ahead and PSA us if you want. I'm fine with not being part of a pilot group associated with those tactics. I'll gladly fall on my sword if it comes to that. You can have your PSA type tactics.

Good, cuz it's going to come to that. PSA took concessions, ASA has NEVER taken concessions. Has Legacy? Let me grab that sword, so you can hurl yourself on it.

AnchorDown

You would be voting in concessions for 2/3 of our pilots just to help shut us down and you get to live another day. That's worse than PSAing us. But like I said, I'll gladly take that sword instead of stooping to that level.

Good, cant help you dude. I got to do what's best for my pilot group, not yours. Our pilots will still not take a pay cut to do the same job and I'm certainly not falling on a sword for you. You want to call it PSA? I don't care. You're Comair. Seeya.

AnchorDown

Sounds like ASA guys are willing to PSA it... Lol!