Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 1690915)
Perhaps I wasn't clear...In short - there is no regulatory mandatory retirement age for Part 91 operators (in part because private carriage is not common carriage) but operators are legally entitled to set an age limit as a BFOQ.
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Originally Posted by thefoxsays
(Post 1690949)
Yes, let's raise the retirement age, again. Stagnate the industry.... And I for one sure as hell doesn't want to be in a tube until 65 or beyond. Jesus.
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Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1690958)
Nice backpedal.
What I wrote is 100% factually accurate, but you inferred something from it that was not intended - that's your problem not mine. Clarifying as to avoid misunderstanding and false conclusions like you obviously made is hardly a "backpedal". Guess what? They won't. Your local company operating a Citation or King Air, yeah, probably not. |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1690963)
Easily said when you're 30. Let's see how you feel when someone orders you to give up something you love on an arbitrary date. Your perspective may change.
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 1690906)
FWIW, courts have recently upheld 91 flight departments having the same mandatory retirement age as 121 airlines.
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 1690965)
You inferred something I didn't intend - that's your problem not mine, and clarifying as to avoid misunderstanding is hardly a "backpedal".
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 1690965)
Exxon obviously has a mandatory retirement age...as have a number of other Fortune 500 flight departments. Your local company operating a Citation or King Air, yeah, probably not.
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Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1690902)
Agreed. However, how do you then justify NO AGE LIMIT for Corporate/Fractional pilots? I've personally flown with a number of pilots who are about to age out who can and do fly rings around the younger guys.
Pass your FAA physical, keep flying. That'll take a small but significant chunk out of the "pilot shortage." Many items in aviation are life limited do you propose the mechanic runs the engine for an unlimited amount of time or years as long as it passes "his" inspection once a or twice a year. Besides AMEs really don't carry the same liability inspecting you as the mechanic does inspecting the hot section. |
Originally Posted by block30
(Post 1690970)
Don't people fly GA anymore??? I really don't understand that argument. Age 65 ain't enough?
I prefer flying multi-million dollar jets and getting paid for it. But, that's just me. :D |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1690971)
This is what you said.
One might note I did not write that the court required or regulated the 121 retirement age on 91 flight departments. OK, so you have ONE example. With the airlines hiring hundreds of pilots and the regionals going begging, what do you want to bet the fractionals will be hiring more and more retiring airline pilots, especially if they have large numbers of airplanes on the order books? As to frax hiring retired airline pilots, you're probably right. But for the third time, 91K isn't public common carriage and fractionals are NOT growing airframes with their orders - they are recapitalizing their existing fleets. |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1690976)
Never flew GA much. You don't get too excited putting around in a C172 when you learned to fly in a T-28.
I prefer flying multi-million dollar jets and getting paid for it. But, that's just me. :D |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 1690979)
Yes, and if you had critica reading skills you would realize that is exactly what the Exxon ruling in the NBAA link I posted did - it upheld Part 91 flight departments having the same mandatory retirement age as 121 airlines.
One might note I did not write that the court required or regulated the 121 retirement age on 91 flight departments. I have more than one example, but its not my business to discuss what the policy of operations other than my own. As to frax hiring retired airline pilots, you're probably right. But for the third time, 91K isn't public common carriage and fractionals are NOT growing airframes with their orders - they are recapitalizing their existing fleets. |
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